Re:Google Employees Uncover Ongoing Work on Censored China S...
by kortilla on Tuesday March 05, 2019 @02:11AM
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>Sometimes people are just wasting their energy on things that are only an issue by their standards and not by the standards of the people who are ultimately affected by the issue itself (in this case the Chinese people).
That’s not how morals work. Just because you’re not the victim of human rights abuse doesn’t mean you can’t try to prevent it.
Re:Google Employees Uncover Ongoing Work on Censored China S...
by Aunche on Tuesday March 05, 2019 @03:20AM
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I don't think that's what whoisjuan meant. The Chinese people who would be "victimized" by Google welcome the new search engine. Presumably, they would choose to use it because they want to. It is not productive to be angry on their behalf.
Re:Google Employees Uncover Ongoing Work on Censored China S...
by perfmode on Tuesday March 05, 2019 @04:52AM
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Given the state of activism and rebellion brewing in China, I am doubtful. From what I've learned about censorship in china in 2019, i am convinced we are on the same side.
Re:Google Employees Uncover Ongoing Work on Censored China S...
by Zarel on Tuesday March 05, 2019 @05:39AM
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I'm Chinese and I can tell you I think Dragonfly will do more good than harm. You can check my comment history if you doubt I'm a real person.
Here's another Chinese person saying the same thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19308777
I've never, in any of the many comment threads on Dragonfly, found a Chinese person who thinks otherwise.
All my Chinese relatives I've talked to also feel the same way, and from their reports, the majority of Chinese people feel the same way.
You are welcome to disagree, but don't put words in our mouths.
By no means, I'm trying to say that you can't regret an issue without indirectly being part of a system that aggravates the same issue. I think nobody can escape this.
But it's different when you want to raise someone or something to a certain moral standard without understanding how fungible is that particular moral standard.
Sometimes people are just wasting their energy on things that are only an issue by their standards and not by the standards of the people who are ultimately affected by the issue itself (in this case the Chinese people).
I would like to see Google employees object with the same energy, things like Google unhinged data collection practices.