Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Underpaying Many Men

Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by crooked-v on Monday March 04, 2019 @02:49PM (#19304640)

Calling it "apples to oranges" is overlooking how some fields are broadly underpaid, which often (though not always) overlaps with gender disparity. For example, primary and secondary school teaching is a 'traditionally female' field that gets massively underpaid compared to tertiary education, despite if anything being much more important to society.

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Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by smokeyj on Monday March 04, 2019 @02:52PM (#19304669)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand

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Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by crooked-v on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:26PM (#19305029)

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/teacher-shortage-us...

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Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by bandrami on Monday March 04, 2019 @02:54PM (#19304686)

Nope, not that, either: the supply of doctors, for instance, is deliberately restricted by the American Medical Association; whereas the supply of elementary teachers is not restricted by the CAEP. Supply and demand are still second-order effects here.

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Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by WillPostForFood on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:11PM (#19304880)

If the supply of doctors is restricted, then you'd expect them to get higher pay, and vice versa with teachers. I agree it is a secondary effect. The cost of training/education required to perform the job is bigger, though it ultimately has the same effect of reducing supply.

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Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by bandrami on Monday March 04, 2019 @06:47PM (#19306846)

Were we to, say, stop the cap on H1-Bs in the medical profession, doctors' pay might migrate down towards teachers' and the OECD average (and US healthcare might be affordable).

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Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by briandear on Monday March 04, 2019 @02:53PM (#19304684)

The “underpay” of teachers is due to supply and demand.

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Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by crooked-v on Monday March 04, 2019 @03:08PM (#19304844)

> High school teachers should be paid much less than university professors.

Why?

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Re:Google Moves to Address Wage Equity, and Finds It’s Under... by dgzl on Monday March 04, 2019 @04:57PM (#19306002)

I imagine you want to make the point that primary School education is more important than secondary School education (which may be true) and thus should be paid better.

I disagree with this in general, because I don't feel like the skills and knowledge needed to be a successful primary School educator are as difficult or unique as those needed to be a secondary School educator.

My reasoning is that a good percentage of the value that comes from primary School education is based around behavioural education, such as learning how to interact and behave with peers and teams. It also is a place where students learn authority and social heptarchy, and punishment and consequence. In addition to learning the foundations of school subjects.

In secondary education, it's assumed that the student has learned all that, and their attention will be focused on difficult study of each of their subjects. The professor should be an embodiment of that subject, with understanding beyond primary School educators. Likewise it's arguably more difficult to keep the attention of University students than primary students.

On the other hand (as in not in general), if someone was a truly exceptional primary educator / early life coach / babysitter, what have you, then the private sector would be a better place for them I imagine.

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