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Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by pavlov on Monday March 04, 2019 @08:32AM (#19301047)
Hollywood has a long history of trying to control distribution. In fact they did, until a 1948 Supreme Court ruling forced the studios to sell their ownership in movie theater chains.

Netflix irritates the old studio heavyweights because they basically started as a lowest-rung distributor (they used to ship rental DVDs around by mail — how entirely devoid of film business glamour!), then slowly and cleverly built themselves up into an immensely wealthy studio, thus reconstructing the tight production-distribution bond that was forbidden to the old studios. Admitting Netflix productions to Oscars is like salt in their wounds.

Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by HenryBemis on Monday March 04, 2019 @08:58AM (#19301230)
Having watched some/plenty of Netflix movies (imho) they are flat, lack substance. Just as a point of reference/to make a comparison, one of my favourite movies is The Fountain (Darren Aronofsky). Maybe some of the Netflix movies got the big names (e.g. Ed Harris - Kodachrome), but they feel like one-dimensional.

Cinematography and cinemas keep people give people jobs, not only while MAKING the movie (cast and crews), but for people to watch it as well. Cinemas (the actual venues) give people jobs, the crews that work there, make pop-corn, sell tickets, cleaning crews, etc.

Netflix wants us to sit on our couches and binge/rot-away [1]. The two experiences (cinema vs netflix) are not even close.

[1]: https://twitter.com/netflix/status/854100194098520064

Edit: I am not negating the usefulness of Netflix, HBO, and other online/serving platforms. But if you want to play the movies-game, you have to win it on THEIR rules. Otherwise make your own 'oscarZ' and go wild :)

Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by larkeith on Monday March 04, 2019 @09:06AM (#19301286)
None of this gives a legitimate reason to exclude their works from the Oscars. Unless they are to become a valueless celebration of media oligarchs, the awards should be awarded on merit - if Netflix productions are as low-quality as you assert, it should not matter whether they are eligible for the Oscars.
Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by mprev on Monday March 04, 2019 @09:09AM (#19301305)
I'm not sure you'll find a receptive audience on HN for cinemas as a job creation exercise.

There's something to be said for movie theatres as an experience or an event, but it's a stretch to argue that overcharging for popcorn and hot dogs are a public good.

Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by gamblor956 on Monday March 04, 2019 @10:36AM (#19302027)
Startups exist as job creation exercise for programmers. Or do you really think we need 100 tiktok clones?
Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by mlrtime on Monday March 04, 2019 @09:05AM (#19301280)
If everyone thinks like you (hopefully not for variety sake) then they won't win any awards. However, banning them from movie awards (they do make movies) is not the answer.
Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by raxxorrax on Monday March 04, 2019 @09:19AM (#19301388)
I agree with the general critique about Netflix movies. Although it is equally valid for Spielberg films in my opinion.

Today, if I think about Hollywood, I have to think about remakes. You have to force me to watch another Marvel/DC movie, although I think they are generally very well made and I liked some characters as a kid.

Just look at the most successful Hollywood movies of 2018. There is absolutely no depth to be found here at all.

These are movies I can enjoy, but mostly while doing something on the side.

Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by gremlinsinc on Monday March 04, 2019 @05:50PM (#19306468)
Even deadpool? I'm getting marvel/dc fatigue as well, but damn I can't get enough Deadpool -- fucking hilarious.

As far as depth, I can't think of a Netflix film I really remember as standing out, now Serials --I can name a bunch: The OA, Stranger Things, Haunting of Hill House, etc -- they may not have found a groove yet w/ movies but they sure have w/ original series -- though they did hit a few snags too, their Marvel world sort of fell apart, and some characters were good, some totally were lame (Iron fist esp.).

Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by chapium on Monday March 04, 2019 @09:13AM (#19301348)
Regardless of the spotty quality of netflix productions, film awards should be about expression in the medium, not the distribution channel.
Re:Spielberg to push for new Oscars rules that exclude strea... by CyberDildonics on Monday March 04, 2019 @09:12AM (#19301327)
If they are so bad, why are there people that feel threatened enough to ban them?