YouTube bans comments on all videos of children

Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by whatshisface on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:20PM (#19275849)

As a staunch supporter of free speech, being exposed to your internal thought process had some negative repercussions for me. None of my fellow pro-free-speech HN users were able to filter you, nor even were they able to socially pressure you, and as result I read an extremist opinion. I think it's important that communities control anti-free-speech comments, otherwise they will descend into extremism.

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Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by npunt on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:24PM (#19275886)

You haven't refuted my argument that super low-friction reach is valuable enough to preserve.

I have pretty decent karma in HN and there are much better filtering mechanisms in this community to remove bad actors and posts than there are on youtube. That's the context of my post that, while hidden, is nonetheless present in this community. There is no community for many youtube comments - its driveby comments that get free reach.

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Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by whatshisface on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:27PM (#19275929)

What's so bad about being exposed to the public id that you'd be willing to even loose a sliver of free speech to prevent it? You're already being exposed to the public id every moment, awake or asleep, because part of it is you.

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Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by npunt on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:31PM (#19275961)

> What's so bad about being exposed to the public id

I dunno, wake up and look outside.

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Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by zapzupnz on Thursday February 28, 2019 @07:05PM (#19276736)

Indeed, it's important for people to not think so academically about viewpoints all the time. There are ideals, and then there is the real world. It's fine to have ideals about things like absolute free speech in all domains, but it must be balanced against the constraints, rational and irrational, of society at large which never constrains its behaviours to anything resembling the ideal.

It's a classic question of the world not being black and white. Either people accept this greyness and work within it to produce the most desirable result possible, or fruitlessly wonder why nobody else is able to see what apparently is so patently visible to your eyes only.

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Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by arminiusreturns on Friday March 01, 2019 @01:26AM (#19278398)

and it is exactly the shifting of the Overton window into that machiavellian realpolitik approach that has the empire invading and performing coups since at least ww2, causing millions of lives lost and reverberation effects for generations to come. The same for any number of major constitutional issues such as the justice system, regulatory capture, etc.

We need more idealism, not less. Tempered with pragmatism is one thing, but the problem is then one is encouraged to temper that idealism a bit more, and a bit more, and one more time, until the original ideal is more a memory than anything.

For me this mostly stems from a lack of knowledge or respect for history.

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Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by zapzupnz on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:27PM (#19275926)

I've downvoted this because it's clearly taking the piss, recontedtualising a comment for gainsaying. No part of the content reinforces nor advances the main thrust of your argument that I can see.

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