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Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by Mirioron on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:09PM (#19275760)
You're missing the point. Most things in life aren't settled as easily as the flat Earth debate. Google could also do this on something that's far more controversial (eg political) and justify it in the same manner. Imagine if Google were against climate change and every video about climate change gets a link to some website that says it's not true. That wouldn't be acceptable, would it? But being okay with Google doing this for flat-earth also makes it more acceptable for Google to do it for climate change.
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by Faark on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:31PM (#19275966)
Recent past (e.g. in US politics) has shown that our society needs mechanisms to incentivize consensus. Google promoting fake information would get appropriate push-back and in the end help form consensus. Yes, even on political topics I'd be fine with that as long as they try to stay fact based. There is a lot of room for honest actors to discuss ideas. But I'm fine with society (including companies like google) pushing back once people (including politicians) go crazy with stupid positions (likely trying to widen the overton window to redefine the "reasonable center")
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by throwawaymath on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:21PM (#19275855)
> But being okay with Google doing this for flat-earth also makes it more acceptable for Google to do it for climate change.

Sounds great, I'm all for it.

Sure the truth can be complicated, but I fail to see how implementing software that auto-links to a relevant article on Wikipedia causes Google to be the arbiter of truth.

Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by Mirioron on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:40PM (#19276055)
>Sounds great, I'm all for it.

Even if Google thinks climate change isn't man-made and links to sources backing that up?

Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by throwawaymath on Thursday February 28, 2019 @09:07PM (#19277394)
No, but I reject the implied premise. I don't just think Google should endorse the things I agree with, and I think characterizing this that way is disingenuous. Rather Google should endorse the truth which substantially recognized experts have consensus on.

There aren't sources backing up that climate change isn't real. That's a hill I'll happily die on. There are plenty of alternative sources which make that claim, but Google does not aggregate facts from them for presentation to its users. Because they don't have evidence.

Like I've said elsewhere in this thread, this isn't a revolutionary idea. Google does it on its search engine and the sky hasn't fallen. I remain unconvinced it would fail if they pushed it out to YouTube.

Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by mrep on Thursday February 28, 2019 @07:51PM (#19277000)
Do you think YouTube should have censored videos about government surveillance programs before the Snowden documents came out?
Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by throwawaymath on Thursday February 28, 2019 @09:08PM (#19277398)
That sounds like a leading question for rhetorical purposes - is this something Google actually did, or are we speaking purely of hypotheticals here?

Note the solution I posed is something which Google already does on its search engine without calamity. Therefore I don't see a reason why it would fail for YouTube. In contrast the example you're giving seems pretty hard to just link to an authoritative source.

Put another way, I'm not advocating for Google to arbitrate the truth on a case by case basis. I'm advocating for Google to identify ahead of time which sources are well-researched and trustworthy, then outsource its fact-linking system to those sources.

If Google were to supply facts on a case by case basis that would be suspect. But that's not how the company operates, so I'm deeply skeptical they would become some kind of arbiter of truth.

Re:YouTube bans comments on all videos of children by ben_w on Thursday February 28, 2019 @05:11PM (#19275769)
I refer you to my last paragraph.