Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by thatoneuser on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @05:36PM
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Are you seriously proposing Amazon doesn't realize what's going on with their review systems?
Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by longerthoughts on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @06:57PM
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Knowing the problem exists isn't the same as having granular data on the scope and nature of the problem. That said... I'd bet they have some data.
Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by vonmoltke on Wednesday February 27, 2019 @08:49AM
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No, as the sibling's post indicates I am suggesting they don't have sufficient data to bound or correct the problem. It's a problem of getting the correct data, then extracting signal from that data. People here seem to be trivializing that part.
Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by derefr on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @07:00PM
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Mostly because the dozen-or-so data-analytics services that AWS provides are all architecturally of the "scratching-your-own-novel-itch" shape rather than the "best-practices, well-known-standard" or "bug-for-bug-clone-of-the-thing-some-other-cloud-vendor-is-doing" shape. Amazon built DynamoDB, acquired Redshift, etc. to use them.
Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by vonmoltke on Wednesday February 27, 2019 @08:44AM
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None of that tells me they have identified the correct metrics to collect in order to identify the extent of the problem, to identify the specific listings or reviews that are fraudulent, or to use in a system to suppress the fraud. They certainly have the infrastructure to do it, but that is the (relatively) easy part.
Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by duado on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @06:32PM
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You think everyone on the Internet except people at Amazon knows about this?
Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by vonmoltke on Wednesday February 27, 2019 @08:36AM
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I don't think "everyone on the Internet" has any idea as to the true scope of the problem, nor do I that no they have a scalable solution.
Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by pessimizer on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @07:25PM
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> People here seem to ascribe a level of omniscience to tech giants that I'm not certain they deserve.
I'd describe it as a level of basic knowledge about their own product. You don't have to be a god to analyze Amazon's data, especially if you're Amazon.
Re:FTC Brings First Case Challenging Fake Paid Reviews on an...
by vonmoltke on Wednesday February 27, 2019 @08:40AM
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Assuming you know what data to collect and store. That isn't a trivial task. Observability on a large and complex system like this is hard. I don't think it is reasonable to assume it's easy for Amazon, and thus their inaction is based on exploiting this bad behavior.
Why? How do we "know" they have the data? How do we "know" that can act on whatever data they have? People here seem to ascribe a level of omniscience to tech giants that I'm not certain they deserve.