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Re:Databases always have a schema (2018) by threeseed on Monday February 25, 2019 @05:29PM (#19250090)
I've been using ORMs for nearly 20 years going back to WebObjects days.

Have never seen, not once, any ORM that doesn't make it trivial to print out the SQL to help with debugging the generated code. And I've never found it particular hard to reason about especially given many ORMs tend to stick to pretty vanilla SQL.

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Re:Databases always have a schema (2018) by overgard on Tuesday February 26, 2019 @11:22PM (#19260848)
Sure you can print it out, but if your data isn’t particularly normalised (which there are good reasons not to do that), it can get gross real quick. The alternative is just manually serialising/deserialising, which is verbose of course but a lot easier to debug.
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