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Re:Journalist, 12, faces off with police officer who threate... by jawns on Sunday February 24, 2019 @06:58PM (#19241513)
Former magazine and newspaper editor here.

One thing that is worth mentioning is that Hilde's dad is a journalist and presumably has helped her hone her skills. Which is not to take away anything from her own accomplishments, but merely to point out that she has access to advice and guidance that not every kid journalist is going to have, and so I think she probably knows better than most how to keep out of trouble.

But one thing that is important to note is that while the officer is absolutely incorrect about it being illegal to publish video of a police officer's face when it is recorded in public, he is correct that giving false information to an officer who asks you where you are going -- even if they don't have a good reason for asking and if it would be within your rights to refuse to answer -- can be a crime.

Granted, if you tell a police officer you're going to visit a friend, and then on your way there you notice something worth reporting about and never make it to your friend's house, you probably have a good defense. At the time you spoke to the officer, you had ever intention of going to your friend's house, and so you were speaking truthfully.

But having a good defense doesn't mean that you can't be charged with an offense. Particularly when it involves a small-town cop who seems to be power tripping.

Re:Journalist, 12, faces off with police officer who threate... by Andre607 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @07:07PM (#19241563)
> he is correct that giving false information to an officer who asks you where you are going -- even if they don't have a good reason for asking and if it would be within your rights to refuse to answer -- can be a crime.

Twice in the video, Lysiak appears to begin disputing the officer's claim that she told him she was going to a friend's house:

"No, I didn't say..."

"I wasn't going to my f..."

And twice he cuts her off.

Re:Journalist, 12, faces off with police officer who threate... by jawns on Sunday February 24, 2019 @08:07PM (#19241882)
Yes, she disputes what he alleges she said.

But disputing an officer's allegation doesn't mean they can't cause trouble for you or charge you with a crime.

Obviously, she's 12, so he's unlikely to take it too far, but let's suppose he had taken her into custody.

Journalists working for mainstream media outlets often have the benefit of the paper's lawyers going to bat for them.

But when you're a lone reporter, 12 or not, the legal costs related to defending yourself against even a bogus charge can be considerable.

Re:Journalist, 12, faces off with police officer who threate... by Andre607 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @08:14PM (#19241921)
> But when you're a lone reporter, 12 or not, the legal costs related to defending yourself against even a bogus charge can be considerable.

Well, yes. This is true not just for independent journalists but for all people.

Re:Journalist, 12, faces off with police officer who threate... by panarky on Sunday February 24, 2019 @07:08PM (#19241569)
The officer ordered the reporter to leave the area "for her own safety" because supposedly a mountain lion was in the area. But the officer didn't order any non-reporters to leave the area.

Is the reporter required by law to comply with that order?

Re:Journalist, 12, faces off with police officer who threate... by jawns on Sunday February 24, 2019 @08:11PM (#19241899)
I'm not a lawyer, but yes, generally speaking, you are required to comply with a lawful order from a police officer, even if they do not give the order to everyone in the vicinity, and even if there is some dispute about whether a safety hazard exists.

Your recourse is not to disobey the order. It's to file a grievance or a lawsuit afterward.

(Key here is "lawful order." If the officer is giving you an unlawful order, such as ordering you to commit a crime, that's another story. But "leave this area, for your safety" is, at least on its face, a lawful order.)

Re:Journalist, 12, faces off with police officer who threate... by masonic on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:54AM (#19243595)
But if you obey the order, how do you demonstrate harm (for evaluating damages) in a later suit?
Re:Journalist, 12, faces off with police officer who threate... by jacobush on Monday February 25, 2019 @01:59PM (#19248317)
On its face. In actuality, I have a hard time entertaining beneficial doubts.