Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by j605 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:37PM
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They were all modified through the generations to make them a commodity. If they have no purpose, them going extinct is not a bad thing. Most of them are optimized for meat or other purposes and they probably can't survive outside. It would be humane to let them go extinct after we transition. FWIW we already wiped them off the Earth, you don't find a lot of wild cows or chickens other than the ones we have modified.
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by chrisseaton on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:38PM
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> they probably can't survive outside
You should come and see the sheep roaming around the mountains near me.
They keep the grasslands under control, and they happily mind their own business. I don't think they need genocide.
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by tdeck on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:48PM
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Many breeds of sheep need to be sheared as they've been bred to not shed their wool.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/0...
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by bastawhiz on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:45PM
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Who's going to pay to transport sheep to grassland? Who's going to rehabilitate a pig that's never been outside a cage? What do we do with cows? There's a lot of unanswered questions, and not many mountains waiting for unwanted sheep.
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by chrisseaton on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:47PM
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I didn't say we should move any around. The person I was replying to said extinction as in all of them, even those minding their own business elsewhere.
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by j605 on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:49PM
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> They keep the grasslands under control, and they happily mind their own business. I don't think they need genocide.
I never asked for them to be killed. Letting them go extinct is different from killing them en masse.
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by uxcolumbo on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:30PM
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Chickens, cows and pigs are overbred to have more meat etc. some of those breeds can't walk properly anymore... They are far from what their early ancestors were...
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by chadcmulligan on Sunday February 24, 2019 @05:40PM
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I was pointing out that the people who say we shouldn't eat meat haven't really thought it through. I would guess that this would be an unintended consequence of their actions and I've never heard it said - the only reason these animals exist is because we've bred them for food - if we don't eat them any more then they'll no longer exist.
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by c-cube on Sunday February 24, 2019 @06:36PM
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I'm pretty sure the Animal Liberation, considered one of the founding blocks of militant vegetarians and vegans in occident, raised this question in… 1975. I think it would be like horses, you would still find (healthy, relatively happy) chicken, cows, pigs, in the countryside; but in smaller numbers and not tortured by millions in factories. No "unintended consequence" there.
Re:Paul Graham on the Transition to Meat Substitutes
by chadcmulligan on Sunday February 24, 2019 @06:50PM
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ok, I've said this to quite a few people and the result is pretty well what it was here, denial and outrage :-) I don't think its well publicized but happy to be proved otherwise.
A vegan society could still keep sheep for example to keep grassland under control?
Just a bit odd to look forward to an innocent species _being wiped off the face of the Earth_.