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Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by toomuchtodo on Saturday February 23, 2019 @10:25PM (#19236932)
Is it twice the expense? Probably not. Plug in hybrids are simply the worst of both worlds. You still need an engine and everything that goes with it, and your all electric range is anemic.

Why would I buy a Volt when I could buy a Model 3, a Leaf, or another EV? Electricity is cheap, no need for fuel or oil changes, and the driving experience is better (at least in Teslas with quick 0-60 times). You also are still eligible for the federal tax credit at its full amount for EVs where the manufacturer hasn’t sold 200k EVs yet.

The Volt died for the same reason the SR71 did: it was no longer needed.

Disclaimer: Tesla owner

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by brightball on Saturday February 23, 2019 @10:57PM (#19237038)
Because most other EVs other than Tesla lack range, while you can still take a Volt on a long trip without having to plan around finding a special charging station.

It’s the single best solution on the market to cutting fuel usage by about 90%, being fun to drive and not having all the headaches that go with range anxiety / locating available charging stations.

The real question is why you’d by an all electric when the Volt was an option? They’re totally impractical for anything other than a 2nd car.

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by toomuchtodo on Saturday February 23, 2019 @11:01PM (#19237050)
Because you’d buy a Prius (a wildly successful vehicle) instead of a PHEV (and still realize a drastic reduction in gasoline usage over the life of the vehicle, while still realizing a high level of reliability). There is a reason the Prius was often put into service as a taxi.

I’ve driven my Tesla from the west coast to the east coast with minimal hassle (using only Superchargers), and with newer EVs having longer range and fast charging stations being deployed rapidly (Electrify America), I argue that the idea that an all electric vehicle is impractical except as a second vehicle is an antiquated notion.

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by BoorishBears on Sunday February 24, 2019 @02:28AM (#19237562)
The Volt has an excellent track record for reliability, easily better than that of the Model 3, and earlier Model S (haven’t kept up with if they ever sorted out the issues from back when I wanted to buy one)

It also has better fit and finish despite costing less.

The Volt was an all around better car than the Model S I test drove and that’s why I have one (and two other cars in a similar price bracket so that is clear it wasn’t a price issue).

This is a little off-topic but your comment resurfaced my sentiment on the matter... I firmly believe Tesla is making cars that survive on halo effect more than substance and am extremely excited to see what other manufacturers come up with in the future.

Also, to understand the benefits of the gas engine look at it like this.

Presuming you’re not one of the owners using/abusing supercharging to replace a home charger, the Volt ICE is like a supercharger.

You only use it on long trips or to top off when you’re a little low and want to get rid of “range anxiety”

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by brightball on Sunday February 24, 2019 @08:40AM (#19238510)
The Prius drives like a powered down vehicle, which it is. The Volt drives like a little sports car. You put it in Sport mode and that thing will fly.

Prius isn’t even in the same conversation...which is why the total lack of marketing of the Volt is the biggest problem it’s had. I’ve driven both, there is no comparison.

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by BoorishBears on Sunday February 24, 2019 @02:26AM (#19237557)
The Volt has an excellent track record for reliability, easily better than that of the Model 3, and earlier Model S (haven’t kept up with if they ever sorted out the issues from back when I wanted to buy one)

It also has better fit and finish despite costing less.

The Volt was an all around better car than the Model S I test drove and that’s why I have one (and two other cars in a similar price bracket so that is clear it wasn’t a price issue).

This is a little off-topic but your comment resurfaced my sentiment on the matter... I firmly believe Tesla is making cars that survive on halo effect more than substance and am extremely excited to see what other manufacturers come up with in the future.

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by username223 on Saturday February 23, 2019 @10:43PM (#19236987)
> Why would I buy a Volt when I could buy a Model 3, a Leaf, or another EV?

Because you could commute on pure battery, but still drive anywhere an ICE can go without having to plan your route around charging stations and kill time while your vehicle charges. Seems like a reasonable use case to me...

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by toomuchtodo on Saturday February 23, 2019 @10:45PM (#19236993)
Tesla sells ~25k vehicles a month to customers (enough that they’ve cannablized sales from BMW in California) who don’t mind stopping at fast DC charging stations. The market has spoken (wrt EV vs PHEV).

While the Volt had a niche, it seems it wasn’t competitive enough versus newer market competitors.

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by tzs on Saturday February 23, 2019 @11:23PM (#19237119)
...and around 475k ICE vehicles a month are sold in the US.

PHEVs seem like a nice option for the people who find that an EV is not suitable for their long distance travel, but would like something environmentally friendly for their short distance needs, and do not want to have two cars.

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by toomuchtodo on Saturday February 23, 2019 @11:25PM (#19237125)
Buy a Prius and carbon offsets until EVs advance further if you’re absolutely set on not wanting to fast charge when traveling and use a liquid fuel instead. Don’t demand a niche product that no one wants to build.
Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by chaostheory on Saturday February 23, 2019 @10:49PM (#19237011)
I don't need to spend hours charging my car if I want to go beyond my commute. I simply go to a normal gas station and my Volt effectively functions as a hybrid. With gas, Volts have a 300 mile range.

Also if my charger somehow fails in the middle of the night, I can still drive to work without issues.

Re:Chevy Volt discontinued: Chevrolet's last Volt rolls off ... by markkanof on Sunday February 24, 2019 @03:19AM (#19237682)
Really depends on your perspective. To me a plug in hybrid seems like the best of both worlds. Enough range to do my daily commute all electric, but the ability to go on a longer road trip without having to worry about where a charging station is located.