Re:RIP Culture War Thread
by intended on Saturday February 23, 2019 @03:53AM
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Yes and No. in some cases these are known dog whistles - the user later goes to other forums and talks about how they “succeeded”.
In other cases, it highlights my point - it is a subversive form of hate speech and it gets past the mod team:, and starts the radicalization process Or polarizing process.
On the other hand it may be a genuine comment, naturally arrived at by a user, but it pattern matches with the mod team and it gets removed.
For example an old argument which is now easily refuted is “brownies have larger families, and their growth rates are over taking natives!”
That’s a factually correct argument, but it’s an incorrect conclusion which takes (took) advantage of average user ignorance.
But the other issue is that this thread stays up, other people who come across it get “red pilled” or “triggered”.
Subsequently the thread becomes a source for flame wars, “engagement”, and propagates schisms in the community.
In the end moderators have to act based on the taxonomy of ideas presented, not their possible sincerity. Leaving it up will only cause further damages.
As a result moderators, (probably like the police) drift away from the average user views and behaviors.
This is the fundamental crux of the moderation problem, if not of communication itself : we can never know the intent behind a statement.
Is it a sincerely held view by someone who is not a Bigot or racist? Or is it sinister and malignant sentences designed to get past moderators and radicalize/convert users and disrupt other communities ?
In other cases, it highlights my point - it is a subversive form of hate speech and it gets past the mod team:, and starts the radicalization process Or polarizing process.
On the other hand it may be a genuine comment, naturally arrived at by a user, but it pattern matches with the mod team and it gets removed.
For example an old argument which is now easily refuted is “brownies have larger families, and their growth rates are over taking natives!”
That’s a factually correct argument, but it’s an incorrect conclusion which takes (took) advantage of average user ignorance.
But the other issue is that this thread stays up, other people who come across it get “red pilled” or “triggered”.
Subsequently the thread becomes a source for flame wars, “engagement”, and propagates schisms in the community.
In the end moderators have to act based on the taxonomy of ideas presented, not their possible sincerity. Leaving it up will only cause further damages.
As a result moderators, (probably like the police) drift away from the average user views and behaviors.
This is the fundamental crux of the moderation problem, if not of communication itself : we can never know the intent behind a statement.
Is it a sincerely held view by someone who is not a Bigot or racist? Or is it sinister and malignant sentences designed to get past moderators and radicalize/convert users and disrupt other communities ?