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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by jmpman on Thursday February 21, 2019 @10:32PM (#19222880)
For my work laptop, I don’t care if my laptop is running an Intel or Apple chip, but for my home laptop, I regularly dual boot to Windows for gaming. Without an Intel chip, I’ll stop buying Apple laptops for home use.
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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by innagadadavida on Thursday February 21, 2019 @10:51PM (#19222972)
Should be possible for Apple to support this via virtualization. Do you just use boot camp and run it natively?
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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by Wowfunhappy on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:34AM (#19223370)
Virtualization is relatively fast because the cpu instructions aren't actually being emulated. No one is going to be gaming on an X86 emulator, at least not for anything released in the past decade and a half or so.
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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by jmpman on Friday February 22, 2019 @09:33AM (#19225607)
I run boot camp, and for gaming, native CPU support is critical.
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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by shemtovo on Friday February 22, 2019 @06:06AM (#19224450)
Good that MS is also hard at work on arm support, for the same battery + Android app compatibility reasons
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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by Wowfunhappy on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:53PM (#19227384)
Aren't all the Windows ARM devices locked down? Can users purchase and install their own copies of Windows on a non-MS-affiliated piece of hardware?

That's a requirement for Bootcamp, unless Apple strikes some special deal with MS, and I don't foresee that happening.

Also, the software ecosystem for Windows on ARM still isn't great. There's an emulator built into the OS, but it's an emulator.

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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by Wowfunhappy on Thursday February 21, 2019 @10:33PM (#19222888)
Whatever the last version of macOS is that supports Intel, I will be on it for a very, very, very, very long time...
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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by aorth on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:22AM (#19223322)
That's unreasonable. What about software security updates?
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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by Wowfunhappy on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:32AM (#19223358)
...I'm not sure I care. I'll have to be careful.

I fell in love with macOS a decade ago. It is a legitimate emotional attachment; I love it more than I've ever loved any piece of software. Unfortunately, Apple is taking away more and more of what made the platform appealing.

I’m not going to outright give up macOS until it’s ripped from my cold dead hands, but I’m also not moving to ARM for all my computing.

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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by kristianp on Thursday February 21, 2019 @11:12PM (#19223061)
Why, exactly?
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Re:Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based C... by Wowfunhappy on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:30AM (#19223347)
I wrote a comment and deleted it. There are ways Apple could make this work. But I highly suspect ARM macOS is going to be significantly more restricted and locked down. I doubt we'll be able to disable SIP, for instance.

The overall direction macOS is moving is not positive. The article mentions Apple wanting developers to be able to publish one app for both macOS and iOS. I'm all for developer's lives being easier, but Apple's initial marzipan apps are really, really bad. I don't want to use touch-first interfaces on a desktop...

Also, I run Windows VM’s, dual boot, do video encoding tasks that see huge benefits from a proper desktop x86 chip, etc.

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