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Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by chooseaname on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:05PM (#19220096)
If I'm walking around, say, the Grand Canyon, you know, up top looking down. If someone is walking around filming a travel vlog and I happen to get filmed, ok, so what? Right? But if they run up and shove the camera in my face without asking for permission, that becomes rude and I should absolutely have some say in it.

If I'm in an airline, I should have some say if there's going to be a camera facing me the ... entire ... flight. That goes beyond just the casual picture or video capture.

Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by techer on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:16PM (#19220196)
Depends in what country you are. Don't need your permission in the USA or the UK.
Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by bdamm on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:31PM (#19220307)
It would still be rude and violate widely held standards for personal space and privacy. Never forget that legal and appropriate are very different things.
Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by dclowd9901 on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:42PM (#19220395)
The point here is "recourse". A "victim" would have no recourse in the illustrated situation. The person said "they should have some say in it." That would be recourse.
Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by chooseaname on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:48PM (#19220446)
If they get really offensive about filming me, I could call the police for harassment, at least.
Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by deathanatos on Thursday February 21, 2019 @04:00PM (#19220535)
IANAL.

In the USA, it depends on jurisdiction and the circumstances. For example, CA is a "two-party consent" state, meaning that to record another party requires their knowledge and consent in some circumstances. This case (a camera in the back of an airline seat) is a bit on the line: the space isn't terribly private (it's a row of seats on an airline), yet a private conversation might be had in a low voice between two people, who did not see, or do not recognize, and were not told that there is a camera pointed right at them.

I do not know if this is a violation of two-party consent. It might not be.

Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by gruez on Thursday February 21, 2019 @04:47PM (#19220854)
>For example, CA is a "two-party consent" state

IANAL, but AFAIK one/two party consent only applies to private conversations (eg. phone calls). Public conversations are fair game in all jurisdictions.

Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by mnm1 on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:44AM (#19223414)
So surveillance cameras are illegal in California? I don't think so. I think your statement is incorrect and likely applies only to private voice conversations.
Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by Avshalom on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:31PM (#19220304)
Commercial use of a photo or video with an identifiable person requires permission (model release forms and stuff). I'm sure that airlines would argue that any data they use for commercial purposes are anonymous (despite you know aving video and name/seat/camera correspondence).
Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by devinmrn on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:49PM (#19220450)
It's my understanding that a release form is typically only used if the video is going to be made available publicly, used in marketing material, etc.

If their commercial purpose was internal to the company then a release wouldn't be required.

I'm an American. This likely isn't true in other countries with more stringent privacy laws.

Re:American Airlines Has Cameras in Their Screens Too by mattlondon on Thursday February 21, 2019 @04:07PM (#19220588)
In the UK, this sort of thing (putting camera right in your face against your wishes, more than once) might be considered harassment, even in a public place.