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Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by vasilipupkin on Thursday February 21, 2019 @01:11PM (#19219058)
I think this type of Census data understates household incomes. I am not exactly sure why, but Atherton comes in at about 400k a year per household. That is a lot, but doesn't seem like a lot for Atherton.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by ryanburk on Thursday February 21, 2019 @01:47PM (#19219432)
I believe it is skewed since many people in these neighborhoods aren't making their money through salary income (anymore), but instead through interest / dividends.

If you sold your company, aren't working at FB/goog/etc and are sitting on a ton of stock holdings, your income is going to show as near $0

Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by vasilipupkin on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:38PM (#19220360)
that should be accounted for in govt household income calculations, but I could be wrong. For example, ton of stock holdings will pay you dividends or capital gains.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by throwaway-1283 on Thursday February 21, 2019 @01:55PM (#19219530)
What you put on your tax return every year doesn't really reflect your actual wealth. Even in tech most people top out at ~$200k-$250k base salaries but you may vest and accumulate millions in stock RSUs that you don't sell in a given year.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by ariwilson on Thursday February 21, 2019 @02:18PM (#19219719)
Stock RSU vests go on your tax returns.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by throwaway-1283 on Thursday February 21, 2019 @02:24PM (#19219759)
Ah ok - I'm thinking private shares
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by arcticbull on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:03AM (#19223266)
Those do too. The only thing that doesn't is deferred compensation in the form of an ISO or NSO. The latter is recognized as ordinary income when exercised.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by vasilipupkin on Thursday February 21, 2019 @04:05PM (#19220573)
My working explanation is that it's actually survey data. the richest people either don't answer the survey or understate their actual holdings when they do answer.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by gthippo on Thursday February 21, 2019 @02:30PM (#19219800)
Don't RSUs show up on the W-2 as income though (even if you don't sell them)?
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by arcticbull on Friday February 22, 2019 @12:04AM (#19223269)
They do; RSU vesting is a taxable event. It's counted as ordinary income based on the fair market value at the time it vests and taxes are due immediately. Companies tend to withhold a percentage of the shares and sell them to cover your tax burden.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by glitchc on Thursday February 21, 2019 @01:38PM (#19219324)
No, this seems right. The typical distribution of income across the pop., even in a distorted environment like the valley, looks far more like a Poisson distribution with a long tail than a typical Gaussian
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by vasilipupkin on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:42PM (#19220404)
137 is a median. Half the people in Palo Alto make less than 137 in household income? Maybe, if you count East Palo Alto. But Atherton at 443 ( https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-hundred-richest-plac... ) ? seems too low
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by telchar on Thursday February 21, 2019 @02:29PM (#19219795)
You don't want to rely on it for means because the high incomes are capped at a relatively low level so that they don't out high-earners in sparse areas. But that shouldn't affect medians.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by zhobbs on Thursday February 21, 2019 @01:41PM (#19219373)
I can't find the $400k/year number anywhere. The census puts it at "$250,001" which seems like a fishy number.
Re:America’s Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful and Mis... by vasilipupkin on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:40PM (#19220371)