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Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by XorNot on Thursday February 21, 2019 @06:43AM (#19216118)
It's less beef, specifically. On a practical level cutting out meat entirely can actually increase emissions because you can raise farm animals off of human inedible parts of plants like stems and other marginal food (i.e. parts we don't get any nutrition from).

Beef however is one of the worst conversion methods in this regard, but animals like chickens and goats are quite efficient.

Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by est31 on Thursday February 21, 2019 @06:45AM (#19216128)
Insects are most efficient btw, but there are cultural reservations about them in the west.
Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by tropo on Thursday February 21, 2019 @01:10PM (#19219054)
We have the same cultural reservations about shrimp. We do not normally eat the head, tail, exoskeleton, legs, gills, or poo-filled gut. It's pretty similar for chicken; nobody eats the feathers and beaks and poop.

Shrimp is nevertheless popular however. We simply remove the parts for which we have cultural reservations.

So, where can I get insects that have been properly prepared, just like shrimp?

Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by int_19h on Thursday February 21, 2019 @07:31PM (#19222022)
Even in Western countries, this varies. For example, in many European countries, there are various dishes involving small fish that's cooked and eaten basically whole, with intestines and all. Examples include Baltic sprats (usually smoked and then canned in oil), or Bulgarian tsatsa (same fish coated in flour and deep fried). Both are delicious, by the way.
Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by yesenadam on Thursday February 21, 2019 @05:13PM (#19221017)
>nobody eats the feathers and beaks and poop.

Well..chicken feathers and poop are fed to cows which are fed to people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poultry_litter#Use_as_cattle_f...

Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by zcid on Thursday February 21, 2019 @10:51AM (#19217641)
I looked into raising crickets, but most of my research suggested that they aren't any more efficient than chickens. It seems that a lot of the studies we currently have are poorly done or not transferable to mass production.

In addition, the amount of extra work for processing crickets made the project less than optimal at least for a small operation.

Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by kibwen on Thursday February 21, 2019 @07:09AM (#19216237)
If Silicon Valley can propel nutrient sludge like Soylent into notoriety, then I'm sure it can do the same for cricket nuggets. :P
Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by benj111 on Thursday February 21, 2019 @07:57AM (#19216505)
Doesn't require Silicon Valley.

Pink slime can now be sold as beef mince in the US. How hard do you think it would be to get powdered cricket labelled as 'protein enhancer' or some such?

Plus people will happily eat things with cochineal [1] in it, so I can't see highly processed insect additives being a problem. Won't be called Cricket nuggets though.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochineal

Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by renholder on Thursday February 21, 2019 @07:24AM (#19216320)
>...like Soylent into notoriety...

As long as it isn't green. =]

Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by Cthulhu_ on Thursday February 21, 2019 @07:55AM (#19216489)
They could grow insects to process into unrecognisable "filler", right?
Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by int_19h on Thursday February 21, 2019 @07:25PM (#19221985)
It's already done, and has been for ages - dried crickets can be ground into "cricket flour". This takes care of the things crunching while you eat them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_flour

Re:Indonesia reports reduced deforestation, triggering carbo... by dh-g on Thursday February 21, 2019 @09:07AM (#19216919)
Composting the waste is more efficient so it would be hard to see a net increase from the elimination of animal production.