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Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by ThomPete on Friday November 19, 2010 @09:21AM (#1921438)
There is a theory (can't remember where I head or read it) that one of the main reasons the soviet union fell apart was that the number of phones installed in private homes increased to a point where it was impossible for the KGB to monitor and therefore to suppress with propaganda.

I have tried to see if I could find any numbers on phone installations up to the fall but haven't found any.

Also according to one of the main KGB execs the SDI program was when they realized that they weren't able to compete with the US anymore.

Ironically the SDI project besides from it being impossible to implement, had it been fully implemented, it would have cribbled the US economy too.

There is also a nice quite from Arthur C. Clarke about the SDI project in which he observed that any system as powerful as the vision of the SDI project would be more dangerous in itself than the dangers it was supposed to protect against.

Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by abalashov on Saturday November 20, 2010 @04:51PM (#1925420)
I don't know Americans are so deeply fond of gross oversimplifications and naive, childlike formulations like this.
Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by ThomPete on Sunday November 21, 2010 @01:06AM (#1926461)
I don't know why (non?) Americans are so deeply fond of gross oversimplified interpretations of what is written like this.
Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by huhtenberg on Friday November 19, 2010 @01:10PM (#1922157)
This theory is patently absurd. Moscow alone was about 10-12 million people in 80s, virtually all residing in apartment buildings with each apartment having a phone line. Do consider how many man-hours it would've taken the KGB to monitor phone conversations in this city alone. Absurd theory.
Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by ThomPete on Friday November 19, 2010 @08:45PM (#1923570)
The question is how many they had in the 70s.
Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by huhtenberg on Friday November 19, 2010 @09:28PM (#1923644)
How are 70s relevant?

In any case you seem to be mistaking Soviet Union for Mongolia or some other equally well-developed country. Moscow stats - http://mgts.ru/company/about/foundation - 162K new lines in 1970, 89K - in '71, 130K - in '72, etc.

Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by ThomPete on Saturday November 20, 2010 @03:22AM (#1924122)
Relevant because the theory talks about an increase in phone lines. To talk about increase you will need to see the progression over time. The soviet union fell apart late 80s early 90s. What's up with the attitude?
Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by jbooth on Saturday November 20, 2010 @12:44PM (#1924875)
For that theory to work there has to have been a point where they could monitor all the phone lines.

Parent poster is making it clear that such a point was well over decades before the soviet union fell, so it's hard for the theory to explain the fall.

Re:The 2 Simple Reasons the Soviet Union Was Doomed to Fail by ThomPete on Sunday November 21, 2010 @01:00AM (#1926450)
That's like saying there need to be a policeman for each citizen. Things don't work like that. The system isn't in one to one relationships.

Anyway it's a theory I heard somewhere I make no claims about it's validity. However I do believe there is something to it which explains why North Korea is so gong ho about controlling information (and being so successful at it)

There is a reason why they weld the radio station to one frequency and why the the US is trying to smuggle radios over the border.