Re:Nestle, Disney Pull YouTube Ads, Joining Furor Over Child...
by int_19h on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @10:42PM
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Laws have to be objective.
Re:Nestle, Disney Pull YouTube Ads, Joining Furor Over Child...
by NeedMoreTea on Wednesday February 20, 2019 @11:42PM
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Yet for matters of taste, public decency, movie censorship, obscenity etc laws necessarily depend on "I'll know it when I see it" to some extent. Or you end up with absurd lists of approved and banned words, poses, bits, and "you may only reveal upto 5" above...". Objective but useless. In Florida public nudity is legal unless "vulgar or indecent". Objective how?
Then we inject judges and juries into the process to make them even more subjective.
Re:Nestle, Disney Pull YouTube Ads, Joining Furor Over Child...
by int_19h on Thursday February 21, 2019 @03:22AM
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That's exactly why those are all examples of bad laws.
Re:Nestle, Disney Pull YouTube Ads, Joining Furor Over Child...
by NeedMoreTea on Thursday February 21, 2019 @05:34AM
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So how would you propose legislating them? Or are you suggesting that there should be no limit at all on what is available or permissible, or of age? Case law and precedent generally makes it clear enough, and adapts to changing expectations without needing to be rewritten. It may adapt slower than many would like. Doesn't make the laws bad.
Every country has some limits, and standards for movie ratings and age restrictions etc.
Re:Nestle, Disney Pull YouTube Ads, Joining Furor Over Child...
by int_19h on Thursday February 21, 2019 @06:59PM
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I propose that there should be no limits on what's available or permissible that cannot be objectively defined. You can ban alcohol for people under 21, for example, but not for "people that I know when I see them shouldn't have alcohol". If you want to ban violence, you have to be specific about what this means (e.g. "no blood", "no slaying", "no physical struggle" etc).
If some legislation cannot be so rewritten, it should be thrown out. Yes, that goes for anything with "vulgar" or "indecent" in the title.
Speaking of standards for movie ratings - they aren't law in US, just industry guidelines. So they're subjective, but people have a choice of following them (e.g. because they believe the board that rates stuff has the same subjective opinion of what is "inappropriate" as they do) or not. Similarly, movie makers can, and do, release unrated movies. Since it's all voluntary, there's no problem here.
That the solution must scale algorithmically is purely for the convenience of the site, and for matters of law and taste nothing but an excuse.
Even having different countries with different laws and standards doesn't scale. So what?