A new book argues that violence laid the foundation for virtue

Re:A new book argues that violence laid the foundation for v... by AnimalMuppet on Friday February 15, 2019 @03:59PM (#19174659)

> What serious evidence is there on the other side?

I suspect that the sorry state of our schools are at least partly because it is no longer possible to take a kid into the principal's office and paddle them. There's no way to discipline a kid in a way that a kid who doesn't care about school will still want to avoid.

Note well my choice of the word "suspect". I do not know of any solid evidence one way or the other.

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Re:A new book argues that violence laid the foundation for v... by johnchristopher on Saturday February 16, 2019 @03:31PM (#19180767)

> I suspect that the sorry state of our schools are at least partly because it is no longer possible to take a kid into the principal's office and paddle them.

Really ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_of_minors_...

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Re:A new book argues that violence laid the foundation for v... by AnimalMuppet on Saturday February 16, 2019 @07:05PM (#19181764)

That surprises me. I had presumed that it was illegal everywhere.

I presume that it is still very rare, even where legal, for fear of lawsuits.

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Re:A new book argues that violence laid the foundation for v... by johnchristopher on Sunday February 17, 2019 @03:54AM (#19183436)

https://ocrdata.ed.gov/StateNationalEstimations/Estimations_... > Discipline, Harassment or Bullying, and Restraint and Seclusion > Corporal punishment (It's a spreadsheet file).

That's 106,000 student receiving corporal punishment that year. Is that considered very rare ?

Also, keep in mind it's still allowed in private schools from 48 states.

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