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Re:Visa, Mastercard mull increasing fees for processing tran... by anonymous5133 on Friday February 15, 2019 @03:35PM (#19174470)
Square is probably the biggest game changer here simply because they also have the POS systems in place to just replace visa/MC if they want. They also have a bunch of apps like cash app....which apparently is going to be integrating bitcoin lightning network soon.
Re:Visa, Mastercard mull increasing fees for processing tran... by docker_up on Friday February 15, 2019 @04:25PM (#19174877)
You don't understand payments if you think they can just replace Visa/Mastercard. The whole value add of Visa/Mastercard is the networks they have with the hundreds of thousands of banks, etc, which Stripe doesn't have.
Re:Visa, Mastercard mull increasing fees for processing tran... by ElatedOwl on Friday February 15, 2019 @05:14PM (#19175215)
Stripe as an acquirer does have bank relationships. Visa isn't paying the merchant directly.
Re:Visa, Mastercard mull increasing fees for processing tran... by abalone on Friday February 15, 2019 @07:25PM (#19176077)
Different kind of bank relationship. There are two banking roles involved in card networks: merchant acquirers and consumer card issuers. Visa/MC are the intermediary between them.

Stripe only partners with a merchant acquirer bank. To replace Visa/MC they'd also have to get into the card issuing side of things: get a bank or banks to issue "Stripe cards" and get merchants to start accepting them.

Re:Visa, Mastercard mull increasing fees for processing tran... by abalone on Friday February 15, 2019 @06:55PM (#19175922)
> they also have the POS systems in place to just replace visa/MC if they want.

Yeah, that's not how it works. Banks that issue cards contract with intermediary card networks like Visa/MC, not POS system vendors.

> integrating bitcoin lightning network soon

Been hearing that for years. Basic problem is while merchants would love to have lower fees, consumers don't have a powerful incentive to switch off using cards. The usual argument is they would save ~2% on prices but there is actually evidence that this would't necessarily happen. When Australia regulated down processing fees, the savings were not passed onto consumers.