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Re:Regulate Facebook and Twitter? The Case Is Getting Stronger by kodablah on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:17PM (#19166610)
It won't help once you realize the people don't care and you can't make them care. It's not ignorance that's the problem either, it's intentional apathy. Until you can show a regular person how they are literally (i.e. not in some made-up tech way) harmed, they aren't going to concern themselves with it and rightfully so. If you make up harms or posit unproven or inapplicable-to-most harms, you will actually hurt your case by crying wolf instead of help it.
Re:Regulate Facebook and Twitter? The Case Is Getting Stronger by Spearchucker on Thursday February 14, 2019 @05:43PM (#19166803)
Maybe. Consider something though -

In South Africa Twitter is huge. In Germany, Facebook is. Instagram is big in the UK. Now take the possibly not unusual scenario in which a South African lives in London and has family in Germany.

Granpappy in Berlin would search for his grandson in London from Facebook but finds him on Instagram. He'd add the grandson as a friend and see the grandson's Instagram photos in his Facebook feed.

The South African guy in London searches Instagram for his nephew in South Africa, and finds him on Twitter. And sees that Twitter account's posts in Instagram.

If someone on Facebook finds me on Instagram, Instagram could notify me that Mr. X is searching for a profile that matches mine, and ask if I want to allow access to my stuff. If I decline he can't. Federation, with user control and consent.

I think it could work. And even if it was useful to a tiny monitory at least there's real choice. Inclusive of all.

Re:Regulate Facebook and Twitter? The Case Is Getting Stronger by r_c_a_d on Friday February 15, 2019 @03:42AM (#19169417)
It definitely could work, but who will make it work? I would really like to see my wife's facebook posts without having a facebook account (or just looking at her iPad which is what I currently do...) and she may be interested in my posts elsewhere.

I can see how it should be easy to send content from foo#twitter.com to bar#facebook.com as individual messages, format issues not withstanding, if foo and bar have agreed to correspond. But which end would manage the existence of that relationship and push/pull the data?

Maybe it needs third-party brokers to do it?

Interestingly I can see some parallels here with the current status of banking in the UK. After centuries of operation as "closed systems" there are now rules to force banks to provide APIs so that new entrants can offer inter-operation services. Maybe in a hundred years social-media companies will be forced to do the same? ;-)

Re:Regulate Facebook and Twitter? The Case Is Getting Stronger by Spearchucker on Friday February 15, 2019 @08:13AM (#19170593)
In the context of the post's case for regulation - if that were indeed to happen then federation might be an approach.
Re:Regulate Facebook and Twitter? The Case Is Getting Stronger by icebraining on Friday February 15, 2019 @04:39AM (#19169628)
Kodablah's point is not that it couldn't work technically, only that there's no public pressure to force them to implement it.

Also, such federation, if not open to third parties (easy to justify with spam, malicious parties, etc) can actually strengthen the current big platforms against competition.

Re:Regulate Facebook and Twitter? The Case Is Getting Stronger by Spearchucker on Friday February 15, 2019 @08:10AM (#19170577)
My suggestion is in the context of regulation. Of course there's no incentive for social networks to do this of their own accord.
Re:Regulate Facebook and Twitter? The Case Is Getting Stronger by icebraining on Friday February 15, 2019 @10:50AM (#19171823)
There actually is, probably to avoid the regulation in the first place: https://datatransferproject.dev/