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Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by AmVess on Thursday February 14, 2019 @02:46AM (#19160322)
There isn't a huge market for the plane. The primary customer is Emirates, who have 109 of them. The next closest, SA, have 24. If you exclude Emirates altogether, the global buy-in for the 380 is 125 units. The remainder of the production run will primarily be to Emirates.

If there was a huge market for the plane, then airlines would have been lining up to buy them. A huge market would be the 787, which started production in 2011 and has delivered 789 of them on 1421 orders.

Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by jayalpha on Thursday February 14, 2019 @02:53AM (#19160336)
You misunderstood my post. I said, there is market for this type of plane, but not for the A380. I was 10 years too early.

- Needs other engines

- Needs to be lighter

- Needs to be bigger. The wings are build for the long version.

The question is, how much does it cost to bring one (price sensitive) customer to the hub? The A380 was the right idea based on size, but too early and failed on price.

Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by ethagknight on Thursday February 14, 2019 @07:11AM (#19161285)
I think the responses above understand your post, you are just referring to a plane that does not exist, and does not exist in a viable roadmap. A more ideal A380 might work, but Emirates is stuck having to continue buying the current production line, and not the future development. If anything, it sounds like it was 30 years too early.
Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by myrandomcomment on Thursday February 14, 2019 @03:14AM (#19160406)
There is zero proof of what you are saying, also some down right things that are just plain wrong.
Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by mixmastamyk on Thursday February 14, 2019 @03:32AM (#19160472)
Longer body, I believe.
Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by Xixi on Thursday February 14, 2019 @09:55AM (#19162267)
I strongly doubt it: larger planes simply don't sell, this is not specific to the A380. Let's look one size below:

On Airbus side the second biggest airliner is the A350-1000: very light, top notch engines -> 170 orders so far, very underwhelming, and the project of a bigger A350-2000 has been postponed due to a lack of interest. On Boeing side the 777-9 (not yet flying) has even more modern engines, a super light wing, and besides Emirates nobody is buying it...

Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by saosebastiao on Thursday February 14, 2019 @11:29AM (#19163146)
For an aircraft that is not yet flying, the 777-9 has pretty healthy demand from multiple airlines. Lufthansa, Etihad, Qatar, All Nippon, and Singapore have all placed orders. Iran Airlines as well, although nullified by trade embargoes. The bigger 777-10x is also selling well.
Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by Xixi on Thursday February 14, 2019 @12:43PM (#19163926)
777-8 has 53 sales, and 777-9 has 273 sales, so a total of 326 firm orders. The 777-10 is not for sale, so it's certainly not selling well... 326 firm orders is pretty good, don't get me wrong, but the order book doesn't look super healthy: only 8 airlines, and 46% of the orders for Emirates. With Etihad troubled finances, that might go down to 7 airlines.

The order book has depth, but lack breadth. I've often heard the critical size for a widebody is at least 400 sales to 20 airlines. 400 sales to achieve economy of scales, and 20 airlines to have a healthy secondary market. The 777X is not far from the 400 sales, but has some ways to go to find 20 customers. The A330NEO is in a similar but reversed situation: 278 orders for 15 customers (including a couple of lessors). The breadth is nearly there, but not the depth.

Re:Airbus will stop building the A380 in 2021 by kenneth on Thursday February 14, 2019 @06:20AM (#19161083)
I think you mean SQ / SIA / Singapore Airlines. South African doesn't operate any A380s.