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Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by saghm on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @04:46PM (#19157377)
Honest question: if people like the one described in the article won't actually end up paying more in taxes due to an increase in their tax rate, why do they oppose it?
Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by opo on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @06:06PM (#19158037)
Because it leads to bad economic choices by the rich and that doesn't actually help anyone. Just recently we had a discussion on how those in Hollywood avoided the high marginal rates:https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-01-29/hollyw...

With high marginal rates, the tax shelters the Hollywood rich invested in were less productive investments. Yes high marginal rates will lead to more CPA hours to get around the high taxes, but that is just an example of the Broken Window fallacy. When there is no way around them, very high rates will lead to dead weight losses to the economy as economic activity won't be done.

Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by flavmartins on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @04:50PM (#19157421)
The answer is likely quite simple.

Because allowing for one idea would lead into another.

70% tax is a start. Not the end. The idea is to find where the "excess" income is taking place and add additional taxes in that area to direct the income into investment and services.

70% may be a start at ordinary income. But does it apply to investments? And then what's next?

I think the key question for Dell and others is: can you show proof that the current approach of lower taxes boost the average individual income of workers? Because right now we're seeing great numbers from Wall Street, but wages are still virtually flat year over year. How does the Dow continue to climb but workers' pay stay the same?

Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by chrisco255 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @04:53PM (#19157455)
Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by CalChris on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @05:28PM (#19157754)
Adjusted for inflation, pretty flat:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=l7U1

Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by chrisco255 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @05:52PM (#19157923)
Way to end the graph in July 2018...extend the graph out to the edge and you see the wages start to rise again. And as long as unemployment stays low, we should expect wages to continue to rise.
Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by foolfoolz on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @04:52PM (#19157435)
because this Hausers law shows that the U.S. government doesn't have a revenue problem, it's collecting proportionately the same amount of money as it has been. there' a spending problem: we keep finding more and more ways to spend money.

this whole green new deal proposal is "lets go spend billions more dollars on XYZ" a lot of the mental pushback is what are you going to stop spending on today to pay for it? the answer: "nothing, we're just going to raise taxes"

i believe opposition to this is less about can the 1% afford the taxes or not, and more for principled spending

Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by phishfi on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @06:38PM (#19158261)
Plus, this idea that 70% off the top 1% is still nowhere near enough to pay for any of this. The numbers I've read suggest that taxing 70% of the $10mil+ earners would amount to around $80bil in revenue, assuming no changes to those earners' incomes as a result of the increased taxes... That's nearly nothing compared to this GND proposal.
Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by hopler on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @06:01PM (#19157999)
What's wrong with investing taxes in growing the GDP?

Why does the funding of current projects affect you level of support for different projects? That's sunk cost fallacy.

Re:For Dell’s Billionaire CEO, Taxing the Ultra-Rich Is a Joke by phishfi on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @06:38PM (#19158264)
Where's the proof that this would increase the GDP?