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Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by typingduck on Thursday February 14, 2019 @08:22AM (#19161625)
A great article (unfortunately I think medium screwed it up with the title).

I love working with people who "give a sh*t" ^TM. Sadly, I observed they almost always seem to end up disillusioned and leave large companies. Over the long term these companies seem to be dominated by non-people (those that just go with the flow never having much opinion either way). It could be argued that people who are idealistic are too difficult to work with/ are over demanding of those around them. But I think it's a question of short-term-ism over long-term-ism. Ironic given what's written in this article that now would be the perfect time to have a properly-differentiated trust based competitor product to Facebook. Perhaps Google would have been better served by taking it's time to get g+ right rather than a growth-hacked bet-the-company moment.

I remember the early days of Google when everyone looked on with awe/reverence as they announced "don't be evil" and how they were going to be different. Ultimately the stock market system means role of executives is judged by quarterly earnings and it would be hard for any individual to stand up to that over the long-term. But just as Google's culture was a reaction to perceived failures at other companies I hope some great people launch a company that takes the learnings from Google into an even better culture.

I will watch out for liz ends up next and judge the company positively based on that.

Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by lizthegrey on Thursday February 14, 2019 @09:53AM (#19162258)
I'm at honeycomb.io now! Come check us out if you're interested in making your systems easier to debug and understand!
Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by typingduck on Thursday February 14, 2019 @11:02AM (#19162892)
Next time I'm building out observability again I will definitely do that :)
Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by lm28469 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @11:10AM (#19154094)
Besides the ego trip it's a pretty eye opening article. I didn't think Google had such internal issues.
Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by towaway1138 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @10:19PM (#19159349)
Definitely read the leaked messages from the time of Damore's firing. You wouldn't believe the kinds of things going on.
Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by towaway1138 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @10:21PM (#19159356)
In case you missed it, Fong wrote that headline herself. SMH
Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by lizthegrey on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @10:32PM (#19159400)
I actually did not, that was Medium's editorial staff.
Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by towaway1138 on Thursday February 14, 2019 @10:14AM (#19162409)
Ha. Well, I'd be annoyed.
Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by lizthegrey on Thursday February 14, 2019 @11:37AM (#19163212)
Some hills are worth dying on, and some aren't :)
Re:Google Workers Lost a Leader, but the Fight Will Continue by towaway1138 on Wednesday February 13, 2019 @12:24PM (#19154694)
Story is pay-walled.