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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by tracker1 on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:26PM (#19145494)
Related, the ticket system in the link is unreasonably slow on a modern high speed connected desktop.

I'm a fan of SPA platforms, I've worked on web based applications for nearly 24 years now. 7-8 seconds is way too long for a desktop with a fat data pipe to wait for a website/webapp. (Cached refresh still over 5 seconds) Should probably take a few lessons from StackOverflow guys.

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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by djtriptych on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:28PM (#19145520)
JIRA loading times probably cost the software development industry 8-9 figures a year in lost productivity.
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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by reaperducer on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @01:06PM (#19145871)
JIRA loading times probably cost the software development industry 8-9 figures a year in lost productivity.

Wrike isn't far behind.

/Upload failed? Must be a day ending in "y".

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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by tracker1 on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:36PM (#19145605)
Didn't even register to me that this was JIRA... not really surprised in the end... did notice a significant amount of cruft in the app, and it's one API call that is the bulk of the wait time. Probably related to passing/parsing/evaluating the permissions around requesting the main payload for display.
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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by djtriptych on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:50PM (#19145735)
It's not. I just saw an opportunity to complain about JIRA and jumped at it.
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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by asnrk on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @03:15PM (#19147086)
It's not just Jira. Asana spins up the fans and causes UI hangs like crazy. The other day on my personal macbook my UI kept freezing for a few seconds at a time and... sure enough, I'd left a Trello tab open by accident.

For whatever reason, project management tools all perform like shit and grind my system to a standstill. PMs never seem to mind, which is why they keep being so awful I guess.

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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by jdelaney on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:44PM (#19145668)
I'm pretty sure it isn't JIRA. It's their own JIRA alternative called YouTrack - https://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/
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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by Vrixam on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:43PM (#19145660)
It's Youtrack, a product by Jetbrains:

https://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/

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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by bunderbunder on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:41PM (#19145647)
It's not JIRA, it's YouTrack.
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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by tracker1 on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:34PM (#19145578)
1.1mb of JS actually isn't that bad all things considered... (ugh, angular...)

Looks like an eventSourceBus request is the culprit... it's passing a huge payload on the querystring... Man, have to love "Enterprise" development.

I don't mean to be especially snarky or mean here... I've just spent my entire career for over half my life now developing web based applications across the stack with care. I've been a proponent of SPA for applications and it really is disheartening to see something work so badly. It could be the effect of HN, but even then it's just so many indications that this whole thing is a bloated mess that typically comes from an "enterprise" architect/developer mindset that makes me sad as someone in the practice.

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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by StavrosK on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:44PM (#19145664)
It's showing two whole kilobytes of text, there's an upper bound on how fast such vast volumes of data can be displayed, you know.

It frustrates me how little pride in their craft the average worker displays, in any industry.

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Re:3 years later, IntelliJ is still unusably slow on macOS w... by tracker1 on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @12:52PM (#19145758)
The bulk of that is comments.. ready event (and first paint) is around 4-5s in... There's no reason the bulk of the page couldn't have been loaded in well under 1s, and have the comments load after.

edit: sorry, didn't realize you were being sarcastic at first.

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