Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City

Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by throwawaysea on Friday February 08, 2019 @10:48PM (#19120573)

Per this poll from 2 days ago, 69% of the public approves of HQ2 coming to NY, with support across all demographic groups.

https://harrisx.com/2019/02/new-poll-shows-overwhelming-supp....

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Other key findings from the poll include:

    85% of New York voters believe that its very or somewhat likely that Amazon’s HQ2 will create good jobs for New Yorkers and Queens residents
    77% of New York voters believe that its very or somewhat likely that Amazon’s HQ2 will improve the economy of New York City
    70% of New York voters believe that its very or somewhat likely that Amazon’s HQ2 will raise New York City property values
    68% of New York voters believe that its very or somewhat likely that Amazon’s HQ2 will help make New York City an East Coast tech hub
    58% of New York voters believe that its very or somewhat likely that Amazon’s HQ2 will raise the tax revenues New York needs for education, transportation, and other vital services
    55% of New York voters believe that its very or somewhat likely that Amazon’s HQ2 will create new opportunities for local and small businesses

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by ardit33 on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:03PM (#19120638)

That's right.... nobody is denying that a large company creating jobs, is a bad thing. People are upset for the large subsidies.

the "Do you believe NYC should give 3B+ subsidies to Amazon"

Or, "Do you believe NYC giving 4 times the subsidies to Amazon, compared to D.C., is a good deal?.?

are missing. Put them into the questionnaire, and see how the response rates change.

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by benregenspan on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:14PM (#19120685)

And indeed, the full survey results (linked on the bottom of https://harrisx.com/2019/02/new-poll-shows-overwhelming-supp...) show that once they were asked about subsidies, most respondents (and 74% of those with an opinion on the subject) thought they were too high.

(That's without being prompted with the specific $ amount of the subsidies, as far as I can see. If they had mentioned the $4 billion figure, the response might have been even more overwhelming.)

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by asdfasgasdgasdg on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:11PM (#19120669)

I would say, of people I've met that voice reluctance over the deal, all of them have been over the issues you mentioned, except the subsidies (i.e. gentrification, housing affordability, oversubscription of public services). I haven't spoken to anyone in person who said anything negative about the subsidies.

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by TheSpiceIsLife on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:11PM (#19120671)

Cherry picking.

Also from the poll:

a majority of New York registered voters also see it as likely that Amazon’s HQ2 will increase the cost of housing in New York City and complicate public transit and transportation, among other issues.

This seems to support the parent’s general claim about the subway etc.

Did the poll ask if New Yorkers were happy with the subsidies?

The poll question: Do you approve or disapprove of Amazon locating one of its new headquarters in Long Island City in Queens? is at least vastly incomplete.

I don’t know the specifics, but it seems fair to me the question should be something more like: do you approve or disapprove of the city spending $x of taxpayers money on a deal to bring Amazon to NYC?

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by typon on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:14PM (#19120684)

I would like to remind readers that Amazon funded this poll. Take from that what you will.

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by boron1006 on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:57PM (#19120841)

This is a better one, and even includes questions on how people feel about subsidies:

https://poll.qu.edu/new-york-city/release-detail?ReleaseID=2...

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by ardit33 on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:05PM (#19120649)

Read my answer again. I said people are not unhappy about Amazon moving here (after all, they already have offices here), but for the large subsidies Cuomo conceded to them.

The questions on that survey don't mention any thing about subsidies... period.

Change it to: "Do you believe Amazon should be given 3B subsidies to come to NYC?" and the replies will look very different...

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by ojbyrne on Saturday February 09, 2019 @12:32AM (#19120958)

Since you asked: “nobody is denying that a large company creating jobs, is a bad thing”

I think you meant that “nobody is asserting that a large company creating jobs, is a bad thing”

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by throwawaymath on Friday February 08, 2019 @11:36PM (#19120759)

Yikes, was that really necessary? Have you never been wrong on the internet before?

What's the point of being so condescending to people? This is not a constructive way to correct someone.

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Re:Amazon Reconsidering Plan to Put Campus in New York City by mjfl on Saturday February 09, 2019 @01:40AM (#19121111)

It's not as much a correction than it is a response to a general trend of HN commenters making incorrect assertions while remaining unassailably confident in their opinions and their moral superiority on several issues. In general, confident wrong people grind my gears a lot, especially when it comes to issues that it's common to get preachy about, like "big business", "billionaires", etc.

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