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Re:Basic income in Finland did not lead to finding work, res... by freedomben on Friday February 08, 2019 @12:46PM (#19116743)
I agree, but I do think it's important to specify that this is only one UBI proposal (it's the UBI proposal that I favor, that Milton Friedman supported as an alternative to bureaucracy heavy welfare programs).

There are plenty of UBI proposals out there that are not universal (you don't get it once you hit a certain income threshold) and that don't replace other welfare programs. These are nontrivial differences that I don't think should be obscured.

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Re:Basic income in Finland did not lead to finding work, res... by dragonwriter on Friday February 08, 2019 @03:21PM (#19118279)
> There are plenty of UBI proposals out there that are not universal (you don't get it once you hit a certain income threshold)

Means-tested programs like that are, by definition, not unconditional basic income. So there are no UBI proposals that do that, since a proposal that does that is not UBI.

> and that don't replace other welfare programs.

It's unusual for a UBI proposal not to replace other means-tested benefit programs (though it may not do so immediately absolutely; my preferred implementation would, e.g., merely count as income against other programs qualifications and only shutter each of them completely when the UBI floor had reached above the point where it was possible to qualify for the one of the other programs.)

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