About V, the language Volt is written in

Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by User23 on Thursday February 07, 2019 @12:41AM (#19103285)

Technically (and we are technical folks) it's a language with a closed source reference implementation. A serious language designer is going to specify his language, so that other implementations, closed or open source, are possible if not available. C is the ur-example, there are dozens of implementations, some proprietary and some free.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by iainmerrick on Thursday February 07, 2019 @03:37AM (#19103887)

We aren’t in a phase where languages have multiple implementations right now.

I can’t think of any well-known newish language (created in the last 10 years, say) with multiple implementations. Rust, Kotlin, Swift, Julia, Dart... any others?

Go might be a counterexample with its cgo implementation, but that was built by the same team and I have the impression (maybe mistaken) that it’s fallen by the wayside.

I don’t know if this indicates a really new language development style, with less emphasis on specification, or if it’s just a cyclic thing and some of these new languages will gain more implementations as they get more established.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by heinrich5991 on Thursday February 07, 2019 @03:51AM (#19103935)

https://github.com/thepowersgang/mrustc is an alternative compiler for Rust.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by coldtea on Thursday February 07, 2019 @04:48AM (#19104136)

Yeah, but no language of the ones the parent mentioned has a non-toy, non-personal-project alternative compiler.

Perhaps only Golang (go and go-gcc).

For all others, everybody uses the standard compiler. Even in Python, PyPy is not even 10% of the users.

Whereas in C/C++ and other such older languages there are several implementation (MS, GCC, LLVM, Borland, Intel) with strong uptake and strong communities/companies behind them.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by nicoburns on Thursday February 07, 2019 @05:46AM (#19104328)

JavaScript isn't quite as new as those listed, but it has at least 5 or 6 implementations.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by coldtea on Thursday February 07, 2019 @05:53AM (#19104354)

Yeah, JS too.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by sacado2 on Friday February 08, 2019 @08:55AM (#19114086)

Yes, go has a formal specification, which not only opens the possibility for alternative implementations, but, more importantly, allows for the development of tools like linters.

It's way harder to develop tooling for a language which is only defined as "what its compiler can compile".

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by iainmerrick on Thursday February 07, 2019 @03:54AM (#19103947)

Cool! Looks like that’s not quite ready for prime time, but I hope it succeeds.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by skocznymroczny on Thursday February 07, 2019 @09:23AM (#19105356)

While older than 10 years, it still kind of falls under newish, but D has three compilers.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by kupiakos on Thursday February 07, 2019 @03:50AM (#19103931)

Python has PyPy?

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by iainmerrick on Thursday February 07, 2019 @03:53AM (#19103943)

Python isn’t new! It’s almost 30 years old.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by kupiakos on Thursday February 07, 2019 @04:06AM (#19103986)

I was about to suggest Python 3, but it seems Python 3.0 released December 3, 2008. Barely missed it!

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by amedvednikov on Thursday February 07, 2019 @12:48AM (#19103320)

There's no reference implementation yet.

I had a small page about the language up. I don't have some of the most basic things implemented and figured out yet.

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Re:About V, the language Volt is written in by User23 on Thursday February 07, 2019 @02:14AM (#19103607)

I’m very happy to see that you’re doing this. Keep at it!

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