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Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by bjonathan on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @08:51AM (#1910028)
Very nice, you should use http://viewtext.org/ API to clean the pages and comments. The PDF will be easier to read and with less pages :)

I love the idea!

Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by pdx on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:08AM (#1910255)
I want to implement something like viewtext.org on my own server (not using an API). I recall somebody mentioning a package that did a pretty good job of cleaning up a web page but can't find it. Can anybody recommend anything?
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by gurraman on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:40AM (#1910397)
You might want to have a look at the source of readability:

http://code.google.com/p/arc90labs-readability/source/browse...

Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by duck on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @09:44AM (#1910163)
I wonder about the copyright issue with this? It is basically packaging someone else's work and producing it in another format. I thought that is why Hacker Monthly had to contact each individual author to get permissions, or is that just because he is selling it?
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by pavs on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:07AM (#1910245)
HackerMonthly is repackaging several articles under a unified name. He is also putting ads on the magazine and later selling them after the first couple of issues. Not getting permission would have been both legally questionale and a dick thing to do.

This "web-app" (if I may use the word), is a simple automated way of putting multiple stories in to PDF format. You could do it yourself at home. There is no ad, reformatting, or rebranding or selling involved.

This distinction seems very obvious to me.

Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by duck on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:20AM (#1910317)
Is the distinction obvious if I took your blog articles and packaged them in a series of PDFs and published them on my site for download?
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by SimonPStevens on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:43AM (#1910408)
The distinction here is between the software and the distribution.

This is legal in the same way that software that rips MP3s from CDs is legal.

On the other hand, distributing the content isn't. So you can rip the content and use it personally, but you can't distribute it without permission.

Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by pavs on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:45AM (#1910419)
Its a conversion tool, not a distribution tool.
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by SimonPStevens on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @11:13AM (#1910509)
That's my point. This web app is doing the content extraction and nothing else. (I can see how perhaps I wasn't clear on that)

I'm saying that it would only be illegal if he attempted to distribute the content too, which he doesn't.

Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by pavs on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @01:57PM (#1911130)
OK, I misread you.
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by pavs on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:43AM (#1910409)
Thats not what this "web-app" is doing.
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by duck on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:58AM (#1910463)
Okay, bad example. Change it so that my site provides a tool to convert your blog posts to PDF. That is basically what this web-app is doing right? Is it different if I put it on a non-app looking site (like my site)?

I understand the difference in distribution vs conversion, but it seems like this is almost a mix. I actually think this service is pretty cool, even though I hate PDFs in general... but I still had to ask. :)

Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by redpill27 on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:17AM (#1910295)
I'm aware of the copyright issue. The app is free and is intended for personal use only so I hope copyright owners mostly won't mind.

Anyway, if someone complains that his/her site is included I will remove it.

Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by mike-cardwell on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @09:37AM (#1910143)
Nice. But limits you to the top 10. I regularly find stuff in the 10-20 positions that I want to read. Ideally you would be able to customise the number of results and add filters to ignore articles with certain words in their title.
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by vic_nyc on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:00AM (#1910219)
Very good, for people on the go. If there was a way to also include the HackerNews users' comments on it, it would be even better.
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by redpill27 on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @10:20AM (#1910321)
There is an 'Include comments' checkbox which does exactly this.
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by mirkules on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @08:35AM (#1909987)
I really like this! It will come in handy when I travel in a few days
Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by 9ec4c12949a4f3 on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @11:09AM (#1910494)
Honest criticism here with suggestion on how to please me.

I wasn't interested viewing a website I saw last week as a pdf. What I suggest doing is checking out how arc90 made the readability bookmarklett, scoop content that way so that it works on your pages with your own magazine-like design that isn't boring. Include top comments, and create a section for discussions (comments that get a lot of replies/nesting). I go far out of my way to un-style every website to be nice and uniform without superfluous content screaming at me from every direction (why did gopher:// have to die?!).

Re:PDFed Hacker News Daily by ajx on Tuesday November 16, 2010 @09:42AM (#1910153)
This is nice, but the API requires your app to communicate back to some central web server in order to function...