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Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by naasking on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @12:55PM (#19097660)
> 0. Lobbying is a right, but one that can only be exercised by individual citizens, not corporations.

So charities and environmental groups can't lobby? Lobbying for them means designating a representative. How is that any different from what corporations are doing? They just happen to have deeper pockets.

Furthermore, the fact that they have deep pockets is actually important. It means they reflect an important aspect of the economy, so ignoring their interests could also have detrimental economic effects.

It's not nearly as simple as you're portraying.

Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by ergothus on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @01:20PM (#19097968)
> Furthermore, the fact that they have deep pockets is actually important. It means they reflect an important aspect of the economy, so ignoring their interests could also have detrimental economic effects.

This embeds the idea that someone making more money has a right to a larger voice than someone that doesn't. - In my "if the world were simple" dreams I'd say something like "every voter can spend $200 - any lobbying group or corp can spend that $200 IN THEIR NAME, but then no one else, including that voter, can. Corps/groups can still raise money and represent their members (who don't have to each spend that money) but it doesn't make a small group of wealthy voters look like a big group of voters. The groups/corps would have to make sure they represented the views of their members, or those members would start revoking their permissions."

Of course, the world isn't that simple, but that sums up my views on money in politics.

Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by naasking on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @02:52PM (#19099114)
> This embeds the idea that someone making more money has a right to a larger voice than someone that doesn't

I don't see how. I just said their opinion shouldn't be ignored, which is what the OP was suggesting by banning corporations which represent large groups of shareholders and employees.

Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by dlp211 on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @04:39PM (#19100290)
Corporations do not represent employees.
Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by naasking on Thursday February 07, 2019 @09:05AM (#19105265)
Except they do. Politicians know that making business more difficult will affect employment.
Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by pathseeker on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @02:44PM (#19098997)
>This embeds the idea that someone making more money has a right to a larger voice than someone that doesn't.

No, it's a signal that you might be proposing an economically destructive policy. You're not required to listen to lobbyists or take their suggestions.

Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by crdoconnor on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @01:36PM (#19098151)
>So charities and environmental groups can't lobby?

They could create form letters for their members to email their representatives.

Some charities I belong to operate this way.

Obviously Comcast could do this too but I don't think they'd be successful getting real people to lobby on their behalf.

>Furthermore, the fact that they have deep pockets is actually important. It means they reflect an important aspect of the economy, so ignoring their interests could also have detrimental economic effects.

The fact that they have deep pockets means that they can broadcast their message more easily so they have an inbuilt advantage. There's no reason not to compensate for that.

Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by smacktoward on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @01:39PM (#19098184)
> Obviously Comcast could do this too but I don't think they'd be successful getting real people to lobby on their behalf.

You might be surprised; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing for the way it's usually done.

Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by crdoconnor on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @05:22PM (#19100704)
I'm sure they'd try. Astroturfing is already illegal and not all that difficult to uncover though.
Re:Netflix Posted Biggest-Ever Profit in 2018 and Paid $0 in... by AmericanChopper on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @02:22PM (#19098758)
>So charities and environmental groups can't lobby?

Incase you didn’t know, all tax-exempt charitable organisations are already severely limited in how they’re allowed to engage in politics. They’re never allowed to endorse candidates, or directly or indirectly campaign for them.