Re:Ask HN: Why be an option/futures/day trader when it is ze...
by muerdeme on Thursday May 15, 2008 @06:01PM
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I was thinking that, because the market created value, it couldn't be zero or negative sum. Now I realize that it's negative sum within the scope of the market itself, even though it may create value in a grander scheme of things.
Re:Ask HN: Why be an option/futures/day trader when it is ze...
by brentr on Thursday May 15, 2008 @06:08PM
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To truly understand the implications of game theory applied to the financial markets, you should look up the concept of Pareto improvements and Pareto optimums.
Re:Ask HN: Why be an option/futures/day trader when it is ze...
by muerdeme on Thursday May 15, 2008 @06:41PM
(#191117)
Good call. My roommate and I are about to start an econ discussion site. Shoot me an email if you're interested in helping us get conversation started or just have any suggestions for us.
If the game is played where the players arrange transfers face to face such as in a home poker game, then the game is zero-sum. Your losses are my gains. No money is created. No money is destroyed. It stays inside the game. The minute we go to a casino to play the same game, the game becomes sub-zero due to the rake. You lose X to me and Y to the rake. I gain your X and lose Y to the rake.
Your cash flows: -X - Y. My cash flows: X - Y. In a zero-sum game your cash flows are the negative of my cash flows. This implies -(-X - Y) = X + Y. This is a contradiction. Therefore, the game is not zero-sum.