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Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by judge2020 on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @05:23PM (#19090592)
For contrast: why containers are a poor choice for small, function-based workloads on the edge: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloud-computing-without-containe...
Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by spben on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @05:53PM (#19090878)
Ben from the StackPath product team here. We agree containers or VM's may not always be the best available option for a workload. That's why we also offer an equivalent product to the one by Cloudflare (great product btw) - https://www.stackpath.com/services/edgeengine/

However, it should be made clear that our container and VM solution is not a "function" type offering. You can deploy a container and/or VM workload on our Edge similar to what you might find at Cloud providers. The main difference is we sit a layer above the cloud providers and make deploying worldwide simple, secure, and fast.

With a few clicks or a single API call you can deploy a micro-service all over the world (even add an anycast IP if you need one) in under 60 seconds.

Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by snug on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @06:06PM (#19091009)
Seems pretty pricey, smallest container is about $70/month for each region and each instance
Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by manigandham on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @02:11AM (#19093319)
Just saw the EdgeEngine post recently too, looks like some good competition to Cloudflare along with Fly.io.

The pricing is higher though and some early testing showed inconsistent performance, might have to wait until it matures a bit. Also missing IPv6.

Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by bithavoc on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @05:57PM (#19090908)
What cloud provider is under the hood?
Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by spben on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @06:04PM (#19090990)
None, it's StackPath under the hood. We have over 65Tbps of capacity all self built/managed at the major IX's in the world.

With a lot of our experience coming from the original founding team at Softlayer, we've built an incredible Platform.

More information on our network can be found at https://www.stackpath.com/platform/network/

Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by dberg on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @10:39PM (#19092505)
Are you guys running Knative or similar to handle the serverless workloads in your edge ?
Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by spben on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @08:30AM (#19094889)
We are not. Knative is a great project and something we're definitely looking into for more "function" type workload offerings down the road.

Today our container/vm solution does not have a warmup concept other than the initial deployment of your container. You simply specify your image, some attributes, and it's deployed to the locations specified on our Edge. Once deployed, you have the ability to delete the workload at any time, but it's not elastic based on requests to the workload.

Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by dberg on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @09:31AM (#19095288)
Cool, so what's your container/vm orchestration layer then?
Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by bithavoc on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @05:51PM (#19090850)
It seems like their initial edge Engine uses the same approach as CF: plain V8 runtime.

This announcement to me sounds like the approach didn't get the expected adoption and now they're allowing regular containers in the edge.

Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by spben on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @05:59PM (#19090946)
We prefer both :)

We've seen amazing adoption on the EdgeEngine product, it just serves a different purpose than full on Containers and/or VM's at the Edge.

The ability to run a container/VM at the Edge enables the ability to run more complex workloads outside of scripting in a CDN like delivery pipeline.

Re:Containers and Virtual Machines at the Edge by drej on Wednesday February 06, 2019 @06:07AM (#19094237)
Is there an open source alternative to this shared runtime? I can't quite recall seeing this process-level isolation in the FaaS sphere, maybe except for gVisor. Thanks.