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Re:Ketamine Could Soon Be Used to Treat Suicidal Ideation by jokowueu on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @11:34AM (#19086858)
This is J&J's S-ketamime NOT racemic ketamin

Racmic is better

Re:Ketamine Could Soon Be Used to Treat Suicidal Ideation by ketathrowaway on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @11:38AM (#19086890)
This has been my experience too. None of the ketamine-based drugs have been as effective as regular ketamine. That said, drug companies will not seek to get regular ketamine FDA approved because they can't patent it. So this is the only way they will go through the process of FDA approval. I hope it leads to regular ketamine being FDA approved for treating depression because only then will it be covered by insurance.
Re:Ketamine Could Soon Be Used to Treat Suicidal Ideation by WalterSear on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @11:53AM (#19087063)
The literature points to R-ketamine, on it's own, appearing to have stronger antidepressant effect, with less of the disassociative effects.

AFAICT, it's not patentable, so nobody would pay for the trials.

Re:Ketamine Could Soon Be Used to Treat Suicidal Ideation by jokowueu on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @01:46PM (#19088372)
This is very true . R-ketamine holds most of the benefit but some of the metabolites of s-ketamine also do contribute to the positive effects .

Regarding patents . It is possible to patent an ROA method just like what j&j did with s-ket