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Re:Ask HN: How do I crawl out of the "Senior Engineer" hole? by throwaway_boy on Monday November 15, 2010 @04:41PM (#1907980)
In the places I've worked that were large enough to actually have names and levels and whatnot, manager/non-manager was always a totally separate dimension from job level. You could easily have a level N engineer being managed by a level N-1 manager. A level N engineer becoming a manager produced a level N manager, it was not a promotion.

So I've never seen how becoming a manager means going "up."

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