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Re:Behind the Lion Air Crash, a Trail of Decisions Kept Pilo... by twtw on Monday February 04, 2019 @11:20AM (#19077538)
The point is that their response may have worked for this particular fault, but would not have worked in general. There is a reason that there are more procedures than "pull back on the stick" - pilots do not know what the fault is.

> they developed an unconscious/intuitive mental model of the plane

If the plane has a fault, it's frequently not going to behave like their unconscious model says it should. In the happy case, rely on your intuition. In the unhappy case, when things are working as they should, follow the emergency procedure.

Sorr, but this is a little like saying "follow standard procedure to put the landing gear down. If that procedure doesn't work, repeat your intuitive action over and over until hopefully the landing gear goes down." No - follow the emergency procedure in place for landing gear fails to descend.

> not communicated to them for cost-cutting reasons

Take it up with the FAA and the airlines?

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Re:Behind the Lion Air Crash, a Trail of Decisions Kept Pilo... by poof131 on Monday February 04, 2019 @11:33AM (#19077666)
> Take it up with the FAA and the airlines?

Sure. It's not just Boeings fault. I believe the FAA will course correct from this and probably all changes to flight controls will need to be reported to pilots. More lessons written in blood.

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Re:Behind the Lion Air Crash, a Trail of Decisions Kept Pilo... by CydeWeys on Monday February 04, 2019 @01:56PM (#19079422)
It's still more Boeing's fault than anyone else's though. They were the ones who made this change and then tried to hide it to the fullest extent possible, so that it wouldn't trigger mandatory retraining.
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Re:Behind the Lion Air Crash, a Trail of Decisions Kept Pilo... by twtw on Monday February 04, 2019 @03:26PM (#19080289)
> and then tried to hide it to the fullest extent possible

I haven't seen any evidence of this. It's definitely not supported by this NYTimes article.

Do you have a source?

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