Re:GM to lay off 4,250 salaried workers in North America sta...
by timoth3y on Monday February 04, 2019 @09:01PM
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Toyota is completely unionized. Toyota considers their workers to be one of the reasons for their quality.
More important, the executives knew about the pension liabilities when they accepted the job. It's been part of their planning and their guidance all along. Blaming the workers when those plans failed is cowardly.
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German automakers are also highly unionized. It doesn't seem to prevent them from making quality cars either. It really seems to me that executives blaming the workers is a US and UK thing. In many business cultures, it just makes the executive seem incompetent.
Re:GM to lay off 4,250 salaried workers in North America sta...
by mimixco on Tuesday February 05, 2019 @08:44AM
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Toyota in the US is not unionized. Their one unionized factory in Fremont, CA closed several years ago and is now a Tesla plant.
Re:GM to lay off 4,250 salaried workers in North America sta...
by pacerwpg on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:21PM
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Pension costs are not unknowable - that sounds like a failure to plan for future costs.
Re:GM to lay off 4,250 salaried workers in North America sta...
by mimixco on Monday February 04, 2019 @12:46PM
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It wasn't a matter of not knowing them. They knew. They were negotiated by the unions. It was a matter of not having enough money to pay them. GM simply cannot sell cars at market prices and also pay all the pensions and higher wages that the union demands. It's not workable.
Re:GM to lay off 4,250 salaried workers in North America sta...
by toomuchtodo on Monday February 04, 2019 @04:15PM
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It could’ve funded the pension fund instead of performing share buybacks, no?
It can’t be said they didn’t have that $10 billion. They had it.
Toyota isn't unionized, doesn't have any trouble attracting workers, and has a great reputation for quality. There was a time when unions were needed to improve working conditions, but that time has passed.
IMHO, it was a mistake to bail them out. I see why we did it, but it didn't fix the root problems.