More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision

Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by tanilama on Saturday February 02, 2019 @04:05AM (#19061997)

Why would not having a CTO symbolize Google's strategy shift from tech? Google has more than enough talented tech visionaries at high levels in each of its sub organizations, probably overpopulated with such.

I don't think Google lacks tech direction, quite on the contrary, they still excel and way ahead of the crowds. But they don't have a strategy to make money off from those technologies, other than limited venues like advertising/play store. But that is nothing CTO can solve.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by jillesvangurp on Saturday February 02, 2019 @04:43AM (#19062106)

I'd say Google is showing signs of too many captains on the ship when it comes to tech. I'm not going to bore you with all the examples that are being cited elsewhere in this thread but there are plenty of things where people are raising eyebrows lately.

A CTO's role is to provide clarity internally and externally on what a company is doing technically. In absence of a CTO, that role is for the CEO. Pichar is not enough of a credible leader on this front.

E.g. Steve Jobs was a clear visionary leader. Bill Gates was a clear technical founder CEO. They did not need CTOs. Amazon has an effective business oriented CEO that defers to a very strong CTO (Werner Vogels) for technical things.

AWS is no accident; that requires technical leadership (Vogels) and long term strategic thinking (Bezos). Google just got leapfrogged by MS in the same space. I'd argue lack of leadership is a big reason.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by artificial on Saturday February 02, 2019 @11:43AM (#19063927)

Thank you for your clear critique, would you mind clarifying the Google leapfrogged by MS statement? I don’t keep close tabs on Azure.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by jillesvangurp on Saturday February 02, 2019 @03:41PM (#19065577)

There have been a bunch of reports citing MS as being second in terms of market share and growing nicely (hence the MS valuations going up), for cloud based deployments rather than third after Google. That's a failure of Google to beat Amazon and not to get beaten by someone else. That happened on Pichar's watch. That's just a small part of Google's business and a huge part of Amazon's business. Puts the whole ads are all there is point of view a bit in in perspective. They are all ballpark in the trillion dollar valuation range so I think the comparison is fair.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by petra on Saturday February 02, 2019 @04:57PM (#19065982)

Google has been doing not so well in cloud for a very long time, long before Pichai became CEO.

And Microsoft has got some very unique strengths when it comes to Enterprise IT and developer tools.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by sam0x17 on Saturday February 02, 2019 @08:25AM (#19062863)

For example a CTO could say unilaterally "no, we won't help build the great search firewall for China".

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by cbnotfromthere on Saturday February 02, 2019 @11:33AM (#19063859)

For example a CTO could say unilaterally "no, we won't help build the great search firewall for China".

That would be absurd, as such decision has no technical merit.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by clubm8 on Saturday February 02, 2019 @12:34PM (#19064309)

>That would be absurd, as such decision has no technical merit.

You think a CTO's job is only to decide which technologies to use?

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by YetAnotherNick on Monday February 04, 2019 @11:40AM (#19077727)

I don't think you have any interest in discussion. CTO's role is of course not just technology related but he can't just veto the management without reason. There are pros and cons to both side for google, and I will be damned if moral reason was not considered when the decision was made, even when there is no CTO.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by sam0x17 on Saturday February 02, 2019 @12:54PM (#19064463)

Yeah, this is my point. CEOs are often too detached from the technology to understand the moral/privacy implications of practically anything.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by YetAnotherNick on Monday February 04, 2019 @11:43AM (#19077755)

How is technology at all related to moral implication? That is like too simplistic view of Google CEO that he does not understand privacy implication.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by philtar on Sunday February 03, 2019 @02:15AM (#19068265)

No but that's not a CTO decision.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by mbrumlow on Saturday February 02, 2019 @10:49AM (#19063562)

Or could say the opposite and fire anybody who refused to do their job ...

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by manigandham on Saturday February 02, 2019 @11:49AM (#19063982)

That’s not a CTO decision.

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Re:More Google Employees Are Losing Faith in Their CEO's Vision by sillyguy123 on Saturday February 02, 2019 @04:45AM (#19062119)

You are right in your views of them having enough technical leadership.

The main difference I can assume is when you look to 1 or 2 (founders)equal leaders to set vision it’s easier to get behind than however many VPs they have(today).

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