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Re:One of the Biggest At-Home DNA Testing Companies Is Worki... by mirimir on Saturday February 02, 2019 @12:22AM (#19061281)
Same here. However, I have no illusions about stopping any of this. The global panopticon is just too useful for authoritarians.

So my solution is to avoid attracting any attention in meatspace. Not doing anything that could generate troublesome records. Such as leaving DNA around. I mean, I certainly leave DNA around, when I go out for stuff. But there's nothing involved that I need to hide.

I also make no effort to hide anything that I do online as my meatspace persona. Because that would attract attention. I do use a VPN service, but that's not at all unusual where I live. And I do torrent some, even when I'm not really after anything. Just as cover.

Anything potentially troublesome, I do via nested VPN chains and Tor. Mirimir just uses nested VPN chains. But then Mirimir just writes about stuff, so hey.

Re:One of the Biggest At-Home DNA Testing Companies Is Worki... by vonseel on Saturday February 02, 2019 @04:46AM (#19062125)
This has to be one of the strangest replies I’ve ever read on HN.

Off to google the term “meatspace” now.

Re:One of the Biggest At-Home DNA Testing Companies Is Worki... by mirimir on Saturday February 02, 2019 @05:33AM (#19062288)
Well, there was the "Meat Puppets", formed in 1980.

And then Terry Bisson's "They're Made Out of Meat", published in 1990:[0]

> "They're made out of meat."

> "Meat?"

> "Meat. They're made out of meat."

> "Meat?"

> "There's no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."

So yeah, it's a term that we old geeks use.

Recent usage by John Markoff:

> "True Names" by Vernor Vinge (1981): "The basic premise of that was, you had to basically hide your true name at all costs. It was an insight into the world we’re living in today … We have to figure it out. I think we have to go to pseudonymity or something. You’re gonna participate in this networked existence, you have to be connected to meatspace in some way."

And yes, we "have to go to pseudonymity or something". If we care about privacy, anyway.

0) http://www.terrybisson.com/page6/page6.html

1) http://renaissancechambara.jp/2017/06/14/oprah-time-true-nam...

Re:One of the Biggest At-Home DNA Testing Companies Is Worki... by NeedMoreTea on Saturday February 02, 2019 @05:05AM (#19062182)
http://catb.org/jargon/html/M/meatspace.html

Goes back to the earliest days of online existence, to distinguish the two.

Re:One of the Biggest At-Home DNA Testing Companies Is Worki... by Scoundreller on Saturday February 02, 2019 @02:58AM (#19061792)
> And I do torrent some, even when I'm not really after anything.

I’d like to subscribe to your RSS feed of magnet: links.

Re:One of the Biggest At-Home DNA Testing Companies Is Worki... by mirimir on Saturday February 02, 2019 @03:29AM (#19061885)
I typically search TPB for recent action and horror films. Especially new Miike stuff.