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Re:Self-driving cars will "cruise" to avoid paying to park by skybrian on Friday February 01, 2019 @01:21PM (#19056816)
There are different parking problems. For example, today we can have a long line of taxis waiting for people to arrive at an airport.

I suspect these are more easily solvable since there is more flexibility about parking spots (the cars don't need to be within walking distance and only a few need to be close by). But there will still be idle cars that need to be put somewhere during off-peak times.

Re:Self-driving cars will "cruise" to avoid paying to park by Ma8ee on Friday February 01, 2019 @02:19PM (#19057484)
And the reason there's a long line of taxis at the airport is because the drivers wants the fare. If there was one or a few companies that owned all the cars, they would make sure there always would be close to an optimum amount of cars at the airport. Cars not in use during low demand hours are either just parked somewhere where the parking is dirt cheap or in for service.
Re:Self-driving cars will "cruise" to avoid paying to park by bobthepanda on Friday February 01, 2019 @02:36PM (#19057655)
Well, that's not the real issue, the real issue is that unloading and loading of taxis at airports is at best chaotic.

The local airport has similar issues with Lyft or Uber, which are in a separate zone from the taxis, so if it were possible to optimize better they probably would've tried already.

Re:Self-driving cars will "cruise" to avoid paying to park by jakobegger on Friday February 01, 2019 @02:15PM (#19057439)
Why would self driving taxis behave different than human driven taxis? I mean, the same argument (cars don't need to be in walking distance) applies to taxis whether a human drives it or a computer?
Re:Self-driving cars will "cruise" to avoid paying to park by briandear on Friday February 01, 2019 @02:39PM (#19057687)
Yes. I drove a taxi for a time during college and I remember drivers would camp at the airport for hours to get a $100 trip but would resent “short trips” despite you actually making more money on multiple short trips than a single airport run. Many of those drivers would use the airport wait time to take a shower, play poker, socialize, sleep. (For those not familiar, taxis at major airports wait in a slow moving off-site queue before you actually ever see them arrive at the terminals; that off-site often resembles a third-world village with everything from laundry, food vendors, ping pong, etc.) Drivers line up their cars, and they do their thing, returning to the vehicle from time to time to move it forward in the queue.

Autonomous vehicle “drivers” don’t need to shower, use the bathroom, eat or sleep, so instead they can be constantly moving rather than camping at airports. A car in motion is generating revenue, so I think autonomous taxis would be fewer in number than human taxis as well as behaving in revenue-optimizing ways (i.e. not camping at the airport.) Theoretically, those airport taxi villages would likely turn into charging stations with a few employees to provide necessary services.

Re:Self-driving cars will "cruise" to avoid paying to park by jcranmer on Friday February 01, 2019 @02:54PM (#19057830)
> A car in motion is generating revenue

Not necessarily. A lot of the self-driving taxi utopia is based on the idea that self-driving taxis will serve commuter traffic. And the major facet of commuter traffic is that you're going to have a high-volume, unidirectional traffic flow--once that car drops off its worker, there is no demand for it make any trips nearby. So if that car is in motion, it's still not carrying anybody, so it's not generating revenue.

Re:Self-driving cars will "cruise" to avoid paying to park by skybrian on Friday February 01, 2019 @03:55PM (#19058488)
Assuming a rational market (never guaranteed), there would be low fares during off-peak hours, and in the reverse direction, with higher fares at peak. So, you'd get some "induced demand" and shift in demand by travel being sometimes being very cheap.

It's sort of like congestion pricing.

Uber has done some of this already.