Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by ken on Thursday January 31, 2019 @06:26PM
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The point may be valid, but it's not what this discussion is about. Apple didn't cut off a user for running unauthorized software on their iPhone. They cut off Google for using a paid enterprise service to distribute their software in violation of its TOS.
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Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by chii on Thursday January 31, 2019 @08:37PM
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> paid enterprise service to distribute their software
that's the problem - why should this service exist in the first place? It's extortion to have to pay to distribute apps to people who want them, on devices they own themselves.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by kngspook on Thursday January 31, 2019 @11:56PM
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Not really. Give me your code, and I can upload it on to any iPhone I want, without paying a cent to Apple.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by chii on Friday February 01, 2019 @01:52AM
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Not without violating the ToS and jailbreaking (voiding warranty).
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by mirimir on Thursday January 31, 2019 @08:43PM
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Yes, and more to the point, they cut off Facebook and Google for distributing unreviewed apps to the general public. So the violation was using the enterprise key to evade app review by Apple. Which Apple does to protect its customers. And so Apple is just protecting its customers.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by jmanderley on Thursday January 31, 2019 @10:14PM
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Facebook already got their access back, I assume the block on Google won't last all that long, either.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by peteretep on Thursday January 31, 2019 @11:17PM
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Presumably FB got it back after signing in blood that they were only going to use this for internal, non-public releases
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by kngspook on Thursday January 31, 2019 @11:55PM
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I believe Apple will do everything they can to keep them from abusing the ToS, but I also believe Facebook will try to work around any and every restriction applied to them.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by mirimir on Friday February 01, 2019 @01:23AM
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Yeah, well, but Apple can always reject apps that violate their ToS, or revoke keys used to work around that. So ultimately Facebook can't win.
Except if they force Apple to nuke all of their apps, which would put Apple in a difficult position. But perhaps Apple could sandbox apps, and prevent them from doing stuff that violates ToS.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by mirimir on Friday February 01, 2019 @01:18AM
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Yes, and revoking the enterprise key wasn't punitive. It was the only way to reliably kill the violating apps.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by joshuamorton on Thursday January 31, 2019 @06:40PM
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That loses a bit of the nuance. Apple cut off Google distributing software within apple's TOS after Google had already stopped breaking the TOS.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by jakebellacera on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:13PM
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But Google already broke Apple's TOS, so it seems like Apple still has grounds to revoke their license.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by joshuamorton on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:17PM
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Right, I'm not saying this isn't warranted necessarily, just that it's punitive not preventative.
Re:Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
by jyrkesh on Thursday January 31, 2019 @07:32PM
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No, they still needed to revoke the cert because the app was still hanging out on users' devices. The only way to ensure that those apps are dead, from Apple's perspective, is to revoke the cert