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Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by mark_l_watson on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @06:12PM (#19040634)
I have bought myself and many in my family Apple Watches - a fantastic product IMO.

As voice dictation gets better, answering email and messages on the watch lets me often just leave my phone at home.

I can imagine a future when many people only have a watch as their personal device but use other larger devices that are shared, instantly personalized by a watch.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by wvenable on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @06:36PM (#19040798)
In the Apple world, everyone owns their own devices. No sharing.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by newscracker on Thursday January 31, 2019 @10:15AM (#19045246)
I'm still annoyed that a device like iPad doesn't support multiple user profiles, logons, etc. Yes, it does support this in a limited way for the education market, but that's not generally usable for others, and it relies a lot on iCloud to refresh one's own data instead of storing/caching as much as possible locally (I'm writing this based on what I remember when Apple introduced this feature a couple of years ago).
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by rhlsthrm on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @08:51PM (#19041553)
But if everything is powered by your watch, then all the external "devices" become essentially dumb monitors. If you could walk up to a monitor and your watch automatically paired with it through Bluetooth and all your stuff popped up ready to be browsed in full HD, desktop sized, wouldn't that be awesome? Of course the watch internals need to be capable of driving full-screen HD, but we're not too far from that.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by wvenable on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @09:57PM (#19041896)
My watch is more powerful than my smartphone was a few years ago. But my phone is also now more powerful than my desktop was just a few years ago. And my current desktop is just ridiculous.

Of course, my watch is good for mostly telling the time. My phone is good for browsing the web and playing games. And my desktop is good for software development.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by ninedays on Thursday January 31, 2019 @05:54AM (#19043893)
I can't help but have the feeling that this was already being said when the iPhone went out and for several years. Yet today, iPhone and iPad are personal devices that is not really shared between users (still no multi user iPad for example). There were some initiatives by Microsoft trying to recreate a desktop experience by plugging your phone to a display and keyboard/mouse but it never really took off.

So IMHO, I don't think this is the future Apple wants to embrace yet even though it appears to be the next logical step in computing for a lot of us.

Edit : fixing typos

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by iaabtpbtpnn on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @07:27PM (#19041125)
What about Mac, which supports multiple accounts probably better than Windows ever did (due to Unix underpinnings)?
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by faslkfjsdlkfj on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @08:51PM (#19041550)
Windows NT has been multi-user from the start. In fact, due to microsoft's heavy business focus, it's arguable that it even has better multiple account support (a concept separate from multiuser)
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by tinus_hn on Thursday January 31, 2019 @04:12AM (#19043509)
Both Mac OS X and Windows NT have pretty weak security protecting local users against each other.

Privilege escalation attacks that require access to the console are usually discounted as unlikely.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by faslkfjsdlkfj on Thursday January 31, 2019 @02:45PM (#19048063)
This is an unsubstantiated claim.

Certainly, there have been a fair amount, but not for lack of effort on the OS developers' parts.

It can always be better, and cutting edge, modern OS designs are superior, but it's not like the foundations of NT/Darwin are completely rotten.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by rmwaite on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @10:21PM (#19042026)
Um, what?
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by monocasa on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @07:35PM (#19041167)
Lolz, no it doesn't. The securetoken stuff means that directory service stuff is broken without doing stuff like storing plaintext passwords on the device. Windows has had much better multi user support for years.

Apple seems to fundamentally believe that Macs are single user systems, and it's shown in their past few major releases.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by mark_l_watson on Thursday January 31, 2019 @12:40PM (#19046741)
That is annoying. I really believe in a future tech world where you just use whatever device is near you (wall screen, screen on a table in a restaurant, devices in friends' and family's homes, etc. It gets old carrying around devices and chargers.

Maybe Apple won't be the vendor for this.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by r00fus on Thursday January 31, 2019 @12:38PM (#19046707)
Every family I know has a "family iPad".
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by amartya916 on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @06:57PM (#19040923)
"I can imagine a future when many people only have a watch as their personal device but use other larger devices that are shared, instantly personalized by a watch."

This is a good idea succinctly put. Thank you. The building blocks are already there (e.g. Apple watch based unlocking for the Mac), and can be extended to spaces like the automobile (CarPlay, extending your definition of a "device" to cars).

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by walterbell on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @07:47PM (#19041211)
Is there an open-standard way for an Apple Watch to unlock a Linux workstation or IoT device?
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by r00fus on Thursday January 31, 2019 @12:41PM (#19046754)
It's a generally bad idea (due to auth options for the watch itself). However it's a great 2nd factor.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by amartya916 on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @10:06PM (#19041943)
As far as I know, there are no open APIs from Apple that’ll help. However, I think it might be possible to use Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) ranging as a proxy for distance. Whether the Watch acts as a BLE beacon or the linux laptop or IoT does the same (or vice-versa) is something to tinker with.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by rorykoehler on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @07:44PM (#19041202)
> leave my phone at home.

Why is this important to you? Aside from going for a run I can't think of any situation where it bothers me to take my phone with.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by elicash on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @07:51PM (#19041230)
Not OP, but I dislike having things in my pockets so much I keep my wallet and keys in my desk at work. Not having to carry anything around would be really nice.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by CarriersSuck on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @08:03PM (#19041295)
I dislike having anything on my wrist (or fingers, to the chagrin of my wife...). I don't mind having a wallet and phone in my pocket, however.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by freehunter on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @08:09PM (#19041325)
Luckily Apple makes products for both use cases.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by sudofail on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @08:18PM (#19041367)
I personally would like to have left temptation to spend time browsing the news, reddit, or other social media. If I could replace my iPhone with an Apple Watch, that'd be great (at least for me)
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by rorykoehler on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @10:15PM (#19041990)
I use the time I'm out alone to listen to audio books or music instead. If I'm with someone I'm present. It's a conscious effort and if you ask my wife she will tell you I've gotten better at it over the years. Overall I find it's a worthwhile investment. As with all my vices I have found that moderation makes them far more rewarding.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by mark_l_watson on Thursday January 31, 2019 @12:43PM (#19046781)
I listen to audio books and pod casts using my Apple Watch and Airpods - I am happy to report that this works great.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by DenisM on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @08:26PM (#19041412)
Consider using ScreenTime to block the most trafficked sites.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by whytaka on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @09:12PM (#19041677)
I hate carrying things in my pocket. I hate the distraction. I hate the lifestyle.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by rorykoehler on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @10:17PM (#19041999)
>I hate carrying things in my pocket.

Fair enough.

>I hate the distraction. I hate the lifestyle.

How does the watch change either of these? My phone is always on mute and I practice a pull behaviour pattern with it (I choose when to look, answer texts, calls etc) rather than a push (distracting) pattern.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by whytaka on Thursday January 31, 2019 @11:15AM (#19045806)
You have greater self discipline than i!

With the watch, It is comfortable to check a notification and quickly respond to it but not much else.

Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by rorykoehler on Thursday January 31, 2019 @08:13PM (#19050767)
Not self discipline. I just turned off all notifications apart from whatsapp. Notifications are a terrible dark pattern in most apps.
Re:Apple's Business Beyond the iPhone by phodo on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @08:57PM (#19041581)
Not just screens, but augmented reality goggles. Coupled with AirPods, you are set for a completely new type of experience.