Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter (2015)
by Symmetry on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @04:58PM
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Very few things in science can be directly experienced. I can't see an electron with my eyes, I have to rely on the reports of machines and infer the electron. And even the reports of my eyes aren't, ultimately, direct experience. That our investigation of consciousness has to take place indirectly is in no way novelty for scientific inquiry.
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Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter (2015)
by vokep on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @05:21PM
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This is different, its the opposite in fact. Experience is ONLY directly experienced is what I'm saying. It cannot be measured. Well, it can, but only from within itself
It can express this measurement in a representational form however, so we can study consciousness's behavior or the behavior of qualia.
Re:Consciousness as a State of Matter (2015)
by Symmetry on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @06:33PM
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You say consciousness can only be experienced indirectly and not indirectly. But I showed in my first post here how to experience it indirectly: just ask other people about their experiences and listen to what they tell you. Do that and you can start doing paradigmatic science on it, as the book I linked to lays out.