Re:Boeing 787 Suffers Rare Dual Engine Failure on Landing
by a1369209993 on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @03:13PM
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> I was hoping "roughly speaking an order of magnitude" would go down to 3.
I'd call that half a order of magnitude, considering log₁₀(3) is around 0.477. So you're off by more than a factor of two.
Re:Boeing 787 Suffers Rare Dual Engine Failure on Landing
by gugagore on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @03:40PM
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You know, I considered saying that the "roughly" buys me a factor of two in log space. I didn't want to be that person, but I'm glad you were ;).
Re:Boeing 787 Suffers Rare Dual Engine Failure on Landing
by a1369209993 on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @06:37PM
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It's surprisingly non-trivial to pin down exactly what the 'correct' scale[0] for a given measurement is. I do agree about "roughly" generally being up to a factor of two in the appropriate scale[1], although I'm the sort who thinks a 19% increase (or 16% decrease) should be called a quarter of a factor of two.
0: Uniform, linear and logarithmic are obvious candidates, but depending on the domain you can end up with some really wierd scales (eg floating-point ULPs, which can look logarithmic or linear, but aren't either).
1: hence > So you're off by more than a factor of two.
Re:Boeing 787 Suffers Rare Dual Engine Failure on Landing
by billforsternz on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @03:21PM
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3 is half an order of magnitude (because it is a good approximation to 10^0.5)
Re:Boeing 787 Suffers Rare Dual Engine Failure on Landing
by Tushon on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @03:34PM
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re go down to 3:
Use different words and see if you think it was reasonable
roughly 10x going down to 3x would also mean it would go up to 17x. That's a pretty wide range, so I don't think that order of magnitude is going to ever really be similar to 3x of something on the basis of what it means.
What would you like to call the factor? 3? Call me a weasel, but I was hoping "roughly speaking an order of magnitude" would go down to 3. I suspected it was comfortably above 2. Am I right about that?