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Re:Chinese spy allegedly caught stealing self-driving car se... by oh_sigh on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @01:43PM (#19037905)
Queue 'America shouldn't complain, because of Samuel Slater' arguments...
Re:Chinese spy allegedly caught stealing self-driving car se... by chillacy on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @04:56PM (#19039987)
Not America shouldn’t complain, rather America shouldn’t claim a moral high ground. Complaint is part of serving your own interests, totally necessary and justified.
Re:Chinese spy allegedly caught stealing self-driving car se... by oh_sigh on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @06:19PM (#19040680)
Yup, just like America can't claim moral high ground over Mauritania because of large amounts of slavery happening there, because after all America was all into slavery 200 years ago.
Re:Chinese spy allegedly caught stealing self-driving car se... by chillacy on Sunday February 03, 2019 @03:19PM (#19071939)
What's the point of having moral high ground if you try to turn it into soft power and the other people laugh you out of the room for hypocrisy?

The best we can do is admit it was wrong and we aren't infallible, have empathy for others on the same path, and help them see what we see. After all, only a few generations ago it seemed like the natural order of things. If only 10% of people disagreed, how sure would you be that you land in that 10%?

Stepping back to today, what practices do 90% of us engage in which our children's children will look back at us as barbaric? Statistically it doesn't look good for us.

Re:Chinese spy allegedly caught stealing self-driving car se... by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @06:35PM (#19040789)
> America was all into slavery 200 years ago.

American didn't abolish de jure slavery until 153 years ago.

It retained de facto slavery for much longer, as it did little to enforce the prohibition on except terminating overt chattel slavery until WWII (the federal order to federal prosecutors announcing the policy shift that stopped eseentially ignoring this was issued five days after Pearl Harbor, 77 years ago.) [0]

[0] https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Circular_No._3591

Re:Chinese spy allegedly caught stealing self-driving car se... by oh_sigh on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @06:58PM (#19040938)
Okay, I edit my previous statement to be: "just like America can't claim moral high ground over Mauritania because of large amounts of slavery happening there, because after all America was all into de facto slavery 77 years ago."

I don't believe the point is particularly changed though.