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Re:Ending our Medium integration by brightball on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @01:08PM (#19037572)
I work for one of those fully bootstrapped successful companies now and it really is fantastic how we can have real business conversations around ecosystem improvement that don’t revolve around money.

Money is good, but not having everything dictated by it is good for the mission.

EDIT: Sure there's still a financial incentive there but it's framed more in the "we need to turn a profit so that we can afford to continue doing these things". We still have salespeople who still have commissions and we still have salaries to pay.

Re:Ending our Medium integration by kvz on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @04:42PM (#19039857)
I have the same experience at transloadit. 10 years of slow growth, but likely we can enjoy another 10 of those optimizing for fun/honest work instead of getting someone their 5x roi already.
Re:Ending our Medium integration by moeamaya on Thursday January 31, 2019 @09:50AM (#19045054)
As a fellow bootstrapper, I loved being a transloadit customer back in the day (old product we ran). Amazing video encoding product and awesome customer support over Skype. Thanks for slogging through the grind!
Re:Ending our Medium integration by MarsAscendant on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @01:51PM (#19038001)
Is there still a concern about the profit? I'm assuming you're working for a for-profit company, where one of the goals – if not the goal, ultimately – is to make cash. (I don't mean to insinuate any sharply-materialistic outlook on your company: I sincerely don't know how a company thinks about money.)
Re:Ending our Medium integration by zrobotics on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @02:05PM (#19038151)
That will always be a concern, even for a nonprofit. You need to keep the lights on, and people need to be paid. However, the trouble with VC funding is the expectation of scale. A VC won't be happy with a small organization that makes enough to pay its employees and sustain a small amount of growth. Unfortunately, that business requires large successes. So the founders and the investors can easily have very different goals.

VC funding is required if you want to build something massive, but isn't a great idea if the founders just want to build a sustainable but small business.

Re:Ending our Medium integration by arielm on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @02:59PM (#19038780)
I disagree with this view completely.

Companies like MailChimp and Atlassian are great examples of bootstrapped companies that became very successful. There are more.

Money is great to have at any stage of a company, and bootstrapped companies prefer to trade stability and time for the freedom of not having money (and those who only focus on it) control decisions.

You can build a great company with and without investment, but you can fail with either just as well.

Re:Ending our Medium integration by Swizec on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @04:50PM (#19039928)
And with VCs you have someone breathing down your neck to either grow fast or die fast. With bootstrap, you don’t have that pressure (and instead have the fuck we don’t have money to fund faster growth problem)
Re:Ending our Medium integration by amenod on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @02:03PM (#19038134)
Not GP, but in a similar position. No, no concern whatsoever. The owners are not greedy which makes all the difference in the world. Not that the profit is low - it is probably much higher this way, when the whole company pulls toward the goals. I have never worked in an environment with so low amount of office politics.

With the way things look right now for high-tech (or any software development) companies the margins are quite high. But of course, if you are a VC who invests in hundreds of businesses, and expect only a few of them to fly, then those few must fly pretty high to make it worth your while. Which means that being just very profitable is not enough - you need to be extremely profitable. And that comes with compromises (mostly for the workers at such startups).

Re:Ending our Medium integration by taurath on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @02:47PM (#19038629)
Platform quality is long term money, platform monetization is short term money.

With VCs who only care that the growth curve is exponential, they go for short term money every time, because yeah you might crash the company, but you've got a 5% chance of becoming a big evil corp.

Re:Ending our Medium integration by dullgiulio on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @03:18PM (#19038992)
Yes, exactly this. You have to choose the hand that feeds.

If you start a platform around paying customers you make it one way, if you start it around getting as many users as you can and then monetize the popularity, then you are selling your users, and that's another way entirely.

Re:Ending our Medium integration by da_chicken on Thursday January 31, 2019 @09:51AM (#19045058)
Yup.

And stock investors often aren't much better.

Re:Ending our Medium integration by s17n on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @10:25PM (#19042042)
Focusing on the 5% chance of massive success is the opposite of short term thinking.
Re:Ending our Medium integration by manigandham on Wednesday January 30, 2019 @11:54PM (#19042457)
It's about having a massive exit, the sooner the better. It's absolutely short-term thinking, with an upper bound around 10 years. Less for smaller investors. Nobody cares what happens after the exit.