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Re:Anti-corruption shortfalls fuelling ‘global democracy cri... by IfOnlyYouKnew on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @06:20PM (#19030904)
Democracy isn’t two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner.

(That’s populism)

Re:Anti-corruption shortfalls fuelling ‘global democracy cri... by jdoliner on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:47PM (#19031504)
What if it's two sheep and a wolf voting on what's for dinner? Does it then suddenly become Democracy? How do you distinguish wolf from sheep in the real world where everyone's actually a human?
Re:Anti-corruption shortfalls fuelling ‘global democracy cri... by ajross on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @08:01PM (#19031581)
No, it becomes democracy when the sheep and wolves agree on a framework that is designed a priori to protect the interests of all animals. Here's an example:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Re:Anti-corruption shortfalls fuelling ‘global democracy cri... by vkou on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @08:07PM (#19031617)
So, the two wolves vote to make the sheep a non-citizen (Or, two centuries ago, a non-person), and the problem is solved.

This is, of course, happening right now.

Re:Anti-corruption shortfalls fuelling ‘global democracy cri... by roenxi on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:56PM (#19031554)
The idea is that all citizens enjoy a level of equality in the democratic process, and so there are no wolves because everyone should be able to work together.

Cynics argue, but the idea of democracy is that those who appear most capable get put in charge. If you strip the most competent people of their ability and incentive to take control the system for productive use then the results are likely to be bad for everyone.

Re:Anti-corruption shortfalls fuelling ‘global democracy cri... by 11sdmb8m on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:47PM (#19031505)
It is, actually. Just because you don't like the outcome, that doesn't mean it's less democratic.
Re:Anti-corruption shortfalls fuelling ‘global democracy cri... by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @08:00PM (#19031578)
So, suppose a party were to announce that their goal is to install a dictator for life. What would you consider more democratic, a government that shuts down that party (limiting the choice in elections) or a government that hands power over to them after an election (thus putting an end to elections altogether)?