Re:Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received...
by klathzazt on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @05:20PM
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I would agree, if the app didn't say "tip for delivery person" instead of "tip for instacart" or something maybe more ambiguous like "tip." Take a look at the screenshots of their app being discussed here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bizcarson/2018/04/24/instacart-...
Re:Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received...
by mikewhy on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @05:48PM
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Are you sure those aren't the upcoming changes? There's another older screenshot further down that has more ambiguous wording.
Edit: welp, even that says it 100% goes to the person doing the shopping. Gross.
Re:Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received...
by Spivak on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @06:13PM
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Insidious, right? 100% of the tip technically does go to your shopper.
Welcome to the world of 'tipped wages'. In my state, every paycheck, the first $520 worth of tips effectively goes straight to your employer for the purposes of paying your minimum wage and then you can have whatever is left over.
Re:Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received...
by gbear605 on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:01PM
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What’s more, this article is made by employees from Washington state, where they don’t even have a separate tipped minimum wage.
Re:Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received...
by dv_dt on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @06:56PM
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I think that may be the theory Instacart is using, but I suspect it hasn't been tested, and that they're doing this under the move fast, flout legal conventions until someone makes you stop startup strategy.
Re:Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received...
by debacle on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @07:47PM
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> Instacart delivery workers are classified as independent contractors
Only Instacart believes this.
Re:Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received...
by Pharmakon on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @08:19PM
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They don’t believe it either, but it’s convenient lie, like corporations being people. It’s ridiculous, but as long as it’s the law and the people benefiting tip their politicians well, whomp whomp.
That having been said, the concept of defining contractor wages in relation to customer tips is new to me. I could see a legal argument being made in the employer's favor if the worker gave due consent to the transaction.
The idea here would be: Instacart states somewhere on the order prior to pickup 'if you choose to accept this order, you will receive $10, of which $.80 will come from us.' Since the delivery worker isn't running a 'shift' as an 'employee,' but just coincidentally happens to be running Instacart orders for 10 hours straight, this counts as one of many transactions that they've accepted and hence waived the legal right to complain about.
If this legal fiction sounds absurd to you, you're not alone.