Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by JohnJamesRambo on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:14AM
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Why do you still use it?
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Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by ForHackernews on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:16AM
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"Choose Firefox now, or later you won't have a choice"
https://robert.ocallahan.org/2014/08/choose-firefox-now-or-l...
Honestly that's a very poor rationale. People should be choosing Firefox because it's a better product or a more ethical one (sadly they are doing a poor job at convincing us of that), not because we need to keep a competitor alive forever no matter what.
Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @11:53AM
(#19027797)
"Should be" doesn't get us anywhere. The rationale is sound, regardless of whether it should be.
Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by AsyncAwait on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:53AM
(#19027297)
Since Quantum, I actually find it to be a better product.
Right now, it is both, it is a better product and a more ethical one.
If people will not use it for these reasons now, then they will not be able to use it in the future.
That's the argument, and it seems pretty straightforward to me.
> it is a better product
Maybe for you. For me, it's unuseable until they add hardware accelerated video decoding.
Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by Dirlewanger on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @11:45AM
(#19027742)
Regardless of the reason why, we're now reaping the fruits of Google's unchecked rampage across the browser space, what with Chromium/WebKit all but taking over. Mozilla continues to be starved for cash. Most Firefox users despise one of its only monetization strategies (selling advertisements). FF would be dead tomorrow if Yahoo (or whoever the default search engine is) pulled their funding. Mozilla is surrounded by rocks and hard places on all sides, what else can they do?
Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by ForHackernews on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:25AM
(#19027017)
I'll happily use a (marginally) inferior competitor because I value competition for its own sake. I use Firefox, DuckDuckGo, Bing Maps.
Yes, you can do that. But if you want it to be sustainable, you can't use that kind of line to convince people at large. And note that until Firefox 57, Firefox was not "marginally" inferior, it was substantially inferior in a number of metrics. They have improved since then, but it took them a very long time - you can't expect users to wait forever for you.
Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by ForHackernews on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:53AM
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If we can't expect educated, tech-savvy users on HN to take the long view and support Mozilla, then I guess you're saying the game is already lost.
We might as well just make our peace that the age of an open internet and general-purpose computing is coming to an end. In future, we'll enjoy AOL 2.0 access on our Google Home Terminal Appliances.
I was talking about "people at large", not HN users.
For the lack of better alternatives (I need some specific extensions, and I don't want to use Chrome). I also use alternative browsers like qutebrowser but it cannot replace everything I need to do.
Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by JohnJamesRambo on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @11:26AM
(#19027580)
Have you tried Brave? I'm really liking it.
Nope, I want no ads in my browsers and Brave does not interest me in that sense.
There is an extension called Chrome Store Foxified. It's like wine for Firefox. Check it out.
Re:Firefox 65.0 released
by PurpleRamen on Tuesday January 29, 2019 @10:50AM
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[..]This add-on has been discontinued. I am leaving it here because it still works in some versions of Firefox. Discontinue Notice and Discussion[..]
Source: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/chrome-store-fox...
The linked discussion makes the impression that they try to revive it.