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Re:US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages by cr1895 on Friday January 25, 2019 @11:15AM (#18999281)
>An administration official recommended that all those affected simply take out loans but unfortunately banks don't lend to people without an income

I think bills have been passed already guaranteeing back pay for federal employees, so it's a bit more complicated than "no income" for federal employees.

However, everyone else who is a contractor or otherwise tangentially dependent on government employment...

And of course getting back pay at some unknown future date doesn't put food on the table now or keep you from losing your house or car.

Re:US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages by metamet on Friday January 25, 2019 @11:19AM (#18999352)
Well, to add a bit more context to it, the administration dismissed the issue, saying that people should just work with grocery stores and banks in order to survive.

Full text:

> Local people know who they are when they go for groceries and everything else. So I think what Wilbur was probably trying to say was that they will work along — I know banks are working along. If you have mortgages, the mortgagees, the folks collecting the interest and all of those things, they work along. And that's what happens in a time like this, they know the people, they've been dealing with them for years, and they work along. The grocery stores...and I think that's probably what Wilbur Ross meant.

Re:US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages by zentiggr on Friday January 25, 2019 @12:10PM (#18999959)
So... mortgage holders are just going to say "oh, you're on furlough... ok, we'll hold your payment schedule and just rewrite the terms once you have pay again."

WTF is the disconnect here? Defaults are going to spike and I can't imagine that any significant percentage of them would be forgiven.

And I haven't seen a grocery store run 'personal credit' since maybe before the 50s at best? Pre-Depression?

Somebody is breathing that Washington nitrous oxide again.

Re:US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages by cr1895 on Friday January 25, 2019 @12:31PM (#19000195)
>And I haven't seen a grocery store run 'personal credit' since maybe before the 50s at best? Pre-Depression?

The ridiculous out-of-touch callousness of it all aside, I remember my parents having credit at a small neighborhood grocery in the 90s-00s. It's not necessarily a relic of the 50s.

Re:US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages by Tsubasachan on Friday January 25, 2019 @11:22AM (#18999393)
Banks don't loan people money for free. They're not a charity. Besides it is pretty absurd that banks have to solve government mess that they have no part in.
Re:US shutdown: Flight delays caused by staff shortages by cr1895 on Friday January 25, 2019 @11:27AM (#18999466)
>Banks don't loan people money for free.

A number of federal credit unions are offering interest-free loans.

>Besides it is pretty absurd that banks have to solve government mess that they have no part in.

Agreed. It's an absurd mess.