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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by krn on Thursday January 24, 2019 @07:32AM (#18988061)
In most of Europe, software engineers are paid the same as other highly skilled engineers. And Europe has plenty of engineering talent. What it doesn't have, though, is people willing to take and fund bold projects. But building the safest cars in the world[1] is not considered bold at Volvo. That's how they differentiate themselves in the crowded premium car market from Audi, Mercedes-Benz, and BMW.

[1] http://www.thedrive.com/sheetmetal/17546/euro-ncap-volvo-xc6...

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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by toasterlovin on Thursday January 24, 2019 @07:36AM (#18988084)
Aren’t the Tesla Model S/X the safest cars in the world, though?
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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by c0unt3r3x4mpl3 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @08:12AM (#18988299)
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/06/insurance-institute-for-high...
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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by mcguire on Thursday January 24, 2019 @11:17AM (#18989986)
An aside:

"While IIHS and dozens of other private industry groups around the world have methods and motivations that suit their own subjective purposes, the most objective and accurate independent testing of vehicle safety is currently done by the U.S. government, which found Model S and Model X to be the two cars with the lowest probability of injury of any cars that it has ever tested, making them the safest cars in history.""

Oy. "that suit their own subjective purposes"? Really?

"So, why the difference between the two crash tests? NHTSA's evaluation does not include small overlap front-end collisions, which the IIHS blames for about a quarter of the injuries and fatalities in front-end crashes."

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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by toasterlovin on Thursday January 24, 2019 @08:19AM (#18988355)
Seems like it’s disputed. Still, of the safest cars mentioned at the end of the article, none are made by Volvo.
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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by krn on Thursday January 24, 2019 @08:26AM (#18988410)
EuroNCAP tests are a way more advanced than those done in North America[1]:

"Ford Mustang hits the wall with 2-star Euro NCAP score [...] Lack of modern safety technology and other flaws mark Ford's sports car down in the latest round of tests. That's the lowest score a brand new vehicle has achieved in quite some time. [...] In NHTSA tests the Mustang scored five starts in every metric."

[1] https://www.evo.co.uk/ford/mustang/18757/ford-mustang-hits-t...

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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by toasterlovin on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:56AM (#18989160)
Good info, thanks!
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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by kobbe on Thursday January 24, 2019 @07:45AM (#18988136)
He ment crash saftey :) If you are in a collition, Volvo is world leading. Tesla is only safer because is can break in advance.
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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by SomeHacker44 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @09:12AM (#18988786)
Unintentionally hilarious use of homonym, thanks! (Cars that can't be driven can't get into many accidents...)
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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by johnsimer on Thursday January 24, 2019 @08:17AM (#18988339)
No

Volvo XC90 is

Teslas are safest for the NHTSA tests, but not the European tests, which, IIRC are better measures of safety

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