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Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by culturestate on Thursday January 24, 2019 @01:53AM (#18986534)
Apple makes the products Apple wants to make; that those product choices might not align with everyone's preferences (I'm pretty happy with my 2018 MBP, for instance) doesn't mean the company can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

Particularly when they make $200 billion per year in revenue.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by pentae on Thursday January 24, 2019 @01:57AM (#18986545)
Well thats my point - it seems that they can't chew gum and walk at the same time. If they could, we'd have Macs that are updated to the latest gen hardware in a reasonable amount of time, and issues like the faulty keyboard would have been fixed by now after 3 years.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by rgovostes on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:10AM (#18986593)
I don't think this viewpoint is shared by the vast majority of people who buy personal computers. Gigahertz, number of CPU cores, Intel processor families, etc. mean nothing.

I think the reason why they don't rev their hardware as frequently as they could is because it doesn't pay to. The number of people choosing between a Mac and a Dell who go for the one with the newest processor has to be vanishingly insignificant.

In my view, people have a clearer picture of how much disk storage they want--the usage meters on their phones help drive that home. Other than that, they are confident that the machine they get today will be faster than the one they bought 4 years ago. But I suspect usage patterns have changed (e.g., more time in the browser; games are played on phones; etc.) so that speed bumps aren't the primary reason why people upgrade, anyway.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by asendra on Thursday January 24, 2019 @05:58AM (#18987596)
It shows a lack of respect for their users, and for their users money.

They are charging the same for almost two years old hardware than they would if It had been updated, but the user gets a worst product, and in the long run, experience.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by avar on Thursday January 24, 2019 @06:06AM (#18987635)
Apple has a ~40% profit margin, and you think them not updating their HW specs in a timely fashion is what shows they don't have respect for their users money?
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by olliej on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:35AM (#18986695)
Attacking the CPU is dumb - mobile cpus have not increased significantly in performance, so why pay a premium of more than x% for <x% performance increase to have the latest gen?

Seriously, the GPU is the only thing you're likely to get a big win from at the consumer level, and you're restricted to intel's shitty IGP until you get to the top end MacBook Pro. Again: you are exceedingly unlikely to get a real day-to-day performance increase from the high end intel mobile cpus on a core-for-core basis, and adding a tonne of cores just eats your battery life (hell, ram alone is a significant power drain for laptops, hence the last gens 16gig limit)

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by bredren on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:38AM (#18986710)
Since you mentioned it, I just added the Apple / Blackmagic eGPU to my 2018 Macbook Air and holy smoke it is a major change for docked 4k workstation with a mac laptop. This eGPU is underrated bigtime.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by dba7dba on Thursday January 24, 2019 @03:02AM (#18986817)
I agree eGPU is a game changer , at least for me. Having the ability to use eGPU in my next laptop is now a requirement for me.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by fipple on Thursday January 24, 2019 @03:00AM (#18986811)
For what applications?
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by bredren on Sunday January 27, 2019 @11:08AM (#19012199)
Everything in MacOS moves more smoothly on a 4k running in 2560x1440, from the dock hide/show to messages bubbles.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by arvinsim on Thursday January 24, 2019 @05:46AM (#18987542)
It's overpriced with a lot of cheaper alternatives. Unless silence is of the utmost importance.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by bredren on Monday January 28, 2019 @01:45PM (#19019942)
I read this a lot in comments about this product but this is a really simplistic description of what this product is in comparison to building your own eGPU right now.

Very often "cheaper alternatives" have stability issues like crashing. Or plug / unplug problems. Stability is more valuable than the quiet although silence matters when the entire rest of your workspace is silent.

The build quality for these enclosures is obviously cheap and low quality. You can tell by when you work with the ports on them.

Also, none of these builds have been supported by Apple. This product was cooperatively designed with Apple so the support is excellent. You have one Thunderbolt 3 cable for all of the things to the mac.

So the price is actually good for what it is.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by npunt on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:51AM (#18986773)
If you're resting most of your argument / feeling on whether Apple is shipping latest gen hardware you might want to examine that more closely. This is a very common misconception and a bit of googling will tell you either a) they are shipping latest gen, or b) the differences between latest and prior gen are negligible.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by traek on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:00AM (#18986552)
What makes you believe the autonomous car project comes at the expense of Mac improvements, rather than being unrelated?
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by boyband6666 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:32AM (#18986683)
It will still take up senior management and board time. THis is something recognised accross corporate governnce - see recently GSK spinning off it's over consumer health and the counter portfolio of drugs, to focus on what it's core business is; novel pharmaceuticals.

Yes you don't want to be a total one trick pony, but if you do everything, you do nothing well.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by groestl on Thursday January 24, 2019 @03:04AM (#18986822)
> if you do everything, you do nothing well.

Sometimes that's true, but I think that most often, these kind of transactions (M&A, spin-offs etc) are the result of political gaming on top of companies, rather than driven by actual business or financial needs. Top managers play their own game very well, and at the end of those transactions usually there is a bonus paid out, no matter the results 5 years down the road. It's not as if verticals within a large company hadn't their own specialized staff, focusing on their own products.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by scarface74 on Thursday January 24, 2019 @07:24AM (#18988020)
Yes because the board is knee deep in the design of Mac hardware.
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by boyband6666 on Sunday January 27, 2019 @05:00PM (#19014030)
Phones, Tablets, Mac computers, Cars, iTunes Music, App sales, Headquarter building, Share price, tax strategy. There are a lot of things that take up bandwidth of senior management. We've all seen many companies where something doesn't get the focus it could were it not for other priorities.

Is this absolutely the reason the laptops are a bit crap? No, but it is plausible that the lacklustre offering in hardware comes from the lack of it being a priority for the company. It certainly doesn't feel like a priority for them, and the offering doesn't feel like a lot of strategy has gone in to how it has evolved over the last few years - contrast that with the iphone.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by scarface74 on Sunday January 27, 2019 @06:14PM (#19014363)
Laptops have gotten attention, they made design mistakes but it wasn’t for a lack of trying. I doubt that the board would have been knowledgeable enough to know they were making a bad decision.

I wouldn’t touch a Mac laptop with a ten foot pole except for maybe the Air if I was desperate, but the iMacs and Mac Minis are tempting. I don’t do development anyway without at least two external monitors and my favorite keyboard/mouse combo.

Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by npunt on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:53AM (#18986779)
Commenter thinks Apple putting engineers on their autonomous car project will somehow make Intel's engineers move faster. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:Apple Lays Off 200 Employees from Autonomous Car Unit by darawk on Thursday January 24, 2019 @02:26AM (#18986655)
Or Apple just believes they can make more money not updating them.